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Originally posted by dafuge:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
How I first got speaking to dafuge was years ago and we did 2 single season challenges on CM03/04 (I think). One was managing East Bengal in India and the other was managing a Brazilian lower league team, (can't remember who), and each challenge only lasted for a single season.
I've been thinking of resurrecting this for a while. Back in the days of the CM forums I started a series of challenges that were based over the length of one season, with a time limit of two weeks for people to complete them. A new team in a new country was chosen for each challenge, with some kind of table produced at the end of the two weeks.
If there any suggestions on this one, we could bring it back. Since then, the challenges forum has been created, so often people have a long term save on the game. How about making it a monthly challenge? Would people be able to manage a season with another team alongside their own games?
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I genuinely think this is an excellent idea. I think it would be really fun to have a fresh challenge every month - maybe giving people the incentive to play in leagues they wouldn't normally consider.
Perhaps it could be mixed up a bit too - in that most challenges here start with a tiny team, with the objective being to make them conquer the world. Maybe with these challenges it could be that one month you're managing a tiny team in the lower divisions of Slovakia for a season, and the next month the goal is to win as many trophies as possible in one season with a bigger, better known team in a different league.
If you ask me, it might need to be controlled in some way though - as great an idea as it is, if the forum were flooded with two hundred odd one season challenges for all sorts of clubs, it's going to get pretty crazy pretty quickly. This scenario to me is really not out of the realm of possibility - say someone started a challenge to get Arsenal to win as many trophies as possible, then a Man Utd fan starts one that's exactly the same but with Man Utd instead, and before you know it you've got a challenge for every team in the world with a half-decent fan base. I know that if not enough people are playing them, challenges die out, but it could potentially cause the forum to get a bit clogged up.
So, an official monthly challenge would be a great way to control this and to stop the forum being deluged with them. Dafuge's FM08 demo challenge just goes to show there's an appetite for shorter challenges, and I think that a monthly one season challenge would be really good at stimulating and maintaining interest in the forum.
Just a few thoughts that sprang to mind! :thup:
11-03-2007, 12:37 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #22
If people think a monthly challenge would be a good idea, I'd love to run it. Running things monthly would mean that I could quite easily manage one season for that while continuing with my own long term game. What do other people think?
11-03-2007, 12:38 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #23
This is one that I've been wanting to do, but just couldn't because I've always had a game on the go.
It's based on the Murder Mystery Party idea. The setup is based on the usual sign ups, where every player chooses positions, attributes etc. but the creator comes up with a list of distinct personalities for the players, which are assigned via e-mail. These could based on things like 'thinks he is far too good for the team' to 'is having an affair with the GK's wife'. It would be up to the people taking part to drop subtle enough hints throughout the thread so that others could guess which personality belongs to them. Obviously the list (or a brief rundown of them) would need to be posted at the start, so that people could try to guess which people have which people have which personalities. The winner could be the first person to e-mail the creator with the correct list, with a maximum of say three guesses.
I think this could create an incredibly interesting thread to read and it could encourage people to be a lot more creative with what they contribute to the sign-up threads. It could create far more of a story, rather than just an update on a team, with far more people contributing to the thread.
Oh my God that's fantastic :eek:!
11-03-2007, 12:44 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #24
Originally posted by dafuge:
If people think a monthly challenge would be a good idea, I'd love to run it. Running things monthly would mean that I could quite easily manage one season for that while continuing with my own long term game. What do other people think?
My sentiments exactly :thup:.
In terms of chosing a team to manage, even if Frank isn't up to speed for FM08 in terms of teams, there are no new league in the game so at least he could chose the league and then maybe your own random team generator, (the thingy in the game works doesn't it , I've never tried it if I'm honest), could shose the team.
Failing that, you could just use Frank for the Nation, then pick the league league /level out of a hat and then do the same for available teams.
11-03-2007, 12:58 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #25
Originally posted by dafuge:
If people think a monthly challenge would be a good idea, I'd love to run it. Running things monthly would mean that I could quite easily manage one season for that while continuing with my own long term game. What do other people think?
You've got my vote! As the creator of the most successful challenge in FM, I'd be surprised if there were any complaints! :thup:
I was thinking about this a bit more, and here's another thought that I'm not even 100% sure would be a good idea myself - but maybe something to kick around?
Obviously for each monthly challenge, there would probably be a leaderboard/table to show who took part and how they got on. How about, in addition to that, having an ongoing leaderboard across all the official monthly challenges? I'm not sure how you would work out the table as the objectives of each challenge would be different, but it could potentially be done in some way...
It's got both pros and cons - on the plus side, it would encourage people to keep taking part and keep coming back for the next month's challenge, and might be fun for regular players to see how they're faring overall across different leagues (not for the sake of beating other players, but just for their own interest), and if the same players keep taking part it could foster a really good sense of community... on the down side, it might overcomplicate things, might encourage a bit too much competitive behaviour when the idea is just to have fun, and would mean more work for the challenge originator.
Hmmmm... I don't know! Any thoughts?
11-03-2007, 01:04 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #26
Originally posted by iseemonsters:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by dafuge:
If people think a monthly challenge would be a good idea, I'd love to run it. Running things monthly would mean that I could quite easily manage one season for that while continuing with my own long term game. What do other people think?
You've got my vote! As the creator of the most successful challenge in FM, I'd be surprised if there were any complaints! :thup:
I was thinking about this a bit more, and here's another thought that I'm not even 100% sure would be a good idea myself - but maybe something to kick around?
Obviously for each monthly challenge, there would probably be a leaderboard/table to show who took part and how they got on. How about, in addition to that, having an ongoing leaderboard across all the official monthly challenges? I'm not sure how you would work out the table as the objectives of each challenge would be different, but it could potentially be done in some way...
It's got both pros and cons - on the plus side, it would encourage people to keep taking part and keep coming back for the next month's challenge, and might be fun for regular players to see how they're faring overall across different leagues (not for the sake of beating other players, but just for their own interest), and if the same players keep taking part it could foster a really good sense of community... on the down side, it might overcomplicate things, might encourage a bit too much competitive behaviour when the idea is just to have fun, and would mean more work for the challenge originator.
Hmmmm... I don't know! Any thoughts? </BLOCKQUOTE>
This was something that I considered when I ran it on the old CM forums, in the end I decided that it was best that each challenge was treated separately so that anyone could join at any time and compete in as many challenges as they wanted. We thought that the idea of an overall leaderboard might put off people joining part way through, because they had no chance of catching the leader. We found that regular individual challenges worked well, because people could dip in and out of it as they wanted.
11-03-2007, 01:09 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #27
Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by dafuge:
If people think a monthly challenge would be a good idea, I'd love to run it. Running things monthly would mean that I could quite easily manage one season for that while continuing with my own long term game. What do other people think?
My sentiments exactly :thup:.
In terms of chosing a team to manage, even if Frank isn't up to speed for FM08 in terms of teams, there are no new league in the game so at least he could chose the league and then maybe your own random team generator, (the thingy in the game works doesn't it , I've never tried it if I'm honest), could shose the team.
Failing that, you could just use Frank for the Nation, then pick the league league /level out of a hat and then do the same for available teams. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Last time, I chose them myself, by trying to pick leagues that people might not have played in before combined with leagues people might be interested in. Believe it or not, East Bengal were actually chosen as they were one of the strongest teams in India. I think the beauty of a monthly challenge is that a mixture of strong and weak teams could be chosen, but I think the team should be chosen rather than randomly selected, this way some of the interesting teams could be chosen.
11-03-2007, 01:23 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #28
This was something that I considered when I ran it on the old CM forums, in the end I decided that it was best that each challenge was treated separately so that anyone could join at any time and compete in as many challenges as they wanted. We thought that the idea of an overall leaderboard might put off people joining part way through, because they had no chance of catching the leader. We found that regular individual challenges worked well, because people could dip in and out of it as they wanted.
Fair enough, that makes sense. And I agree on choosing teams deliberately rather than randomly, so as to give as wide a range of challenges as possible.
11-03-2007, 02:51 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #29
Last time, I chose them myself, by trying to pick leagues that people might not have played in before combined with leagues people might be interested in. Believe it or not, East Bengal were actually chosen as they were one of the strongest teams in India. I think the beauty of a monthly challenge is that a mixture of strong and weak teams could be chosen, but I think the team should be chosen rather than randomly selected, this way some of the interesting teams could be chosen.
Yes, and there could be a number of these challenges with like a difficulty rating out of 5/10 perhaps?
11-03-2007, 03:02 AM
Challenges / Sign-Ups / Holiday Games *official* ideas thread. Post #30
Originally posted by birdy123:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Last time, I chose them myself, by trying to pick leagues that people might not have played in before combined with leagues people might be interested in. Believe it or not, East Bengal were actually chosen as they were one of the strongest teams in India. I think the beauty of a monthly challenge is that a mixture of strong and weak teams could be chosen, but I think the team should be chosen rather than randomly selected, this way some of the interesting teams could be chosen.
Yes, and there could be a number of these challenges with like a difficulty rating out of 5/10 perhaps? </BLOCKQUOTE>
I suppose the difference with those challenges compared to the current ones is that they were competitive in the way that you were competing against other people, rather than trying to achieve a common goal.
A difficulty rating should be irrelevant if people are competing against each other.
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