retired_jupiter

Why the **** am I being warned by the FA and being told that the other team's goal was perfectly legitimate when I look at the replay and the player is at least a yard offside?

I usually refrain from commenting on these issues after games because there is no way to be 100% certain on red card and penalty decisions, but when you can clearly see the call is wrong you shouldn't be warned by the FA and told that there was nothing wrong with the goal when there clearly was.

retired_model2b

You will be warned because you were wrong to speak out about the Referee, not because you were right

retired_jupiter

Then the message I get shouldn't say that the goal was perfectly legitimate.

retired_jupiter

Anybody from SI have a decent answer?

retired_autumn

In 07 (I haven't played 08 yet) you could never tell if your complaint was legit from watching the replay, because it didn't render the incident in a way that made it possible to really tell if you had a legitimate beef or not. I got burned on a similar type of thing, where it looked pretty clear on the replay and I still got slapped for saying so.

I found it to be much more reliable to go by the match commentary, since that pretty much tells you if it was a bad call or not. There is always some extra bit after the standard, "He points to the spot! It's a penalty!!! The [your team] players are furious!" which is usually a rhetorical question along the lines of, "Did [the other team] just get lucky with that?" That's your cue to complain, if you want to, and not get hit for it.

I'm going to guess that something similar is at work for 08, unless SI went out of its way to not make the commentary as predictable as it was in 07.

retired_bcs162

IRL when disciplining managers for speaking out against referees, do the FA ever say "despite it being a legitimate goal that you spoke out about, we are fining you £xxx". Nope. Hence the game follows IRL.

retired_autumn

IRL when disciplining managers for speaking out against referees, do the FA ever say "despite it being a legitimate goal that you spoke out about, we are fining you £xxx". Nope. Hence the game follows IRL. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well maybe 08 is 'more like real life', but in FM 07 if you complain about a call that the ref got wrong, the FA doesn't punish you, and the news item says something like, "The FA is strangely silent on this issue." As for when the ref is wrong, see upthread.

Dav1d

This is a decent answer.

Look at David Moyes for an example, he was 100% right about the penalty's that Everton should have got when playing Liverpool but he is still being punished for it. It's just matching real life.

retired_artgirl4you

I have spoken out in the new game a fair few times, I'd say 99% of the time, the FA warn me but I have seen them stay silent, but it is very rare.

Also, I have never had a touchline ban either, so I think they may warn you regardless of whether you are right or not...perhaps they only stay silent if it was an absolute stinker of a decision by a poor ref?

BwayBaby

I got my first sideline ban today, because of a goal scored from a player in an offside position. Not only was I right, not only did I get a sideline ban, not only did I get yelled at from the board, not only did it cost me a win, (the game ended 2-2) but the news even said it was a perfectly legitimate goal, even though I saw the offside from a MILE away. I'm starting to think that just because I have criticized the ref while in a ****y mood before, the FA and the press thinks I can never be correct, EVER again. And if this is the case, I won't be able to rid the cups and league of crappy refs unless I'm cheating (which I don't have any idea how to do..) and this scares me. Crappy refs should be banned, not a loyal Manager!