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Old 08-24-2004, 10:32 PM   A question of honest ability... Post #1
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I was surprised when I was speaking to our main graphic designer the other day to know that she can't draw or paint with her hands. It never occurred to me that people who didn't do things with their hands would want to do graphic design. She's very good too. I was wondering... How many people here are strictly reliable on their machine to for their art? Our faith in an honest answer is really all we can go on, but I was just curious. I thought it was odd, but maybe there are more people out there that are that way than I thought.

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Old 08-25-2004, 03:53 AM   A question of honest ability... Post #2
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Well although my mother has been a "multi-medium" (hehe) artist for the past 40yrs or more, i myself don't actually do much in the temporal world. I can draw (see the header drawing used on the "Links" page), but i don't really take much time in doing it.

I do like drawing though. I just don't have as much time anymore to sit down and spend on it.
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Old 08-25-2004, 05:12 PM   A question of honest ability... Post #3
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I'm in the same boat as Mark. I do have a background in the "temporal world", but I spend my time on the computer.

I suppose some people can study formal art, without doing it, and gain the knowledge of proper format and such.
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Old 08-25-2004, 05:55 PM   A question of honest ability... Post #4
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Interesting question...

I have natural multi-media background.
Water Colors, Oils, Actyllics and Pastels mainly.
I have some of my artwork in the visual gallery on my site.

I also spent some time with theatre/stage prop design, residential and commercial decor, including mural paintings. It was a natural transistion for me to embrace Photoshop.
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:05 PM   A question of honest ability... Post #5
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Everyone's experience is so different that I'm never be surprised by running into someone with capacities radically different my our own. I spent 40 years doing physical art. Painting in acryllics, water colors, embroidery, woodworking/sculpting, some blacksmithing/metal working/metal sculpture and on and on. I even spent five years developing an original art form based on adding pigments to sheet rock mud and doing bas-relief 'paintings'. Until the computer, working in three dimensions was my strong point.

Then I discovered my 'inner nerd' and haven't done 'real art' since. The tools and possibilities available in digital creation are wonderful! It is a completely new toolbox. Personally, I'm not interested at all in recreating any traditonal media through digital means as I've done them and yet I'm amazed by those who do wonderful paintings in Photoshop or draw grand images in Illustrator. To me, exploring the things that you couldn't possibly do in other media is the fascination with digital art. Oh, it's clean, too!
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Old 08-25-2004, 07:08 PM   A question of honest ability... Post #6
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I'm a bit the opposite. Although I give myself about 65% for Photoshop and 50% for basic, non-animated things in Cinema4D, I always go back to my pencil, pen or brush.
My digital "knowledge" is still more "scientific interest" and experiment than real creative work.

Some people just open an app and begin to experiment, but I have to attain to at least 70% of knowledge before I can start as I cannot think when I'm creating. So the app must really be in my fingertips. I'm very grateful to Mark for making me a mod here as there is no way to learn any app better than to try and answer questions by others, and to simplify and simplify again the most basic answers.
Also, painting and drawing takes up most of my life, so what's left for the computer is limited, and, ;\ the Internet is a big temptation AND a time-robber. Collecting data, and knowing there will always be more...

I'm about to leave for some exhibitions in a few weeks, so in September I'll mostly be gone. After that, I want to concentrate more on creating with that incredible digital toolbox I have collected. I'll need several months to create something, that I already know, as it will have to match my tradart work. I also know I will succeed. That's inevitable.

My only doubt now is: should I add terragen or not? (hehe)

We *might*start a thread (NOT in this one!) on digital toolboxes...not to boast, but to inform about good and bad. Wat do you think?
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:36 PM   A question of honest ability... Post #7
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We *might*start a thread (NOT in this one!) on digital toolboxes...not to boast, but to inform about good and bad. Wat do you think?
I think it's a good idea. I've learned so much here from Mark, Stroker, yourself, Rick, Rantin Al, Kiwi, Gare, Lily, Wendy, Sue and on and on. I'd never heard of half a dozen applications which I use now until being introduced to them on this forum. I think maybe a Digital Toolbox thread might deserve a 'sticky status.' I remember one 3D thread in which I was introduced to Terragen, WorldBuilder, Vue d'Esprit 4 and one or two other applications which were brand new to me. It was most illuminating!

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Exactly right! 8))
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Old 08-26-2004, 12:16 AM   A question of honest ability... Post #8
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I do almost all my artwork on photoshop. I have two + years of art training at the high school level and two quarters each of photography and film-making at the college level but I am not especially talented with pencil or brush. The human form is beyond me.

Photoshop let me become an artist.

.. Plus pixels are a lot cheaper than oil paint, turpentine, and good brushes.
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Old 08-26-2004, 02:02 AM   A question of honest ability... Post #9
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I have not been able to draw in 8 years.... (personal story that nearly wrecked all the talent I still have.) It was only the last year that I got started with photoshop and disiplined myself to learn it. I just mostly color comics. That's it.
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:28 AM   A question of honest ability... Post #10
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but I have to attain to at least 70% of knowledge before I can start as I cannot think when I'm creating.
I know the feeling
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