retired_shekhar

Ter: I do not agree that this new face and logo size is a step forward. In my eyes it's a huge step backwards as it will exclude a lot of clubs and players from having their logo or face in the game.

Most of the logos and faces that are possible to find for clubs or players of clubs from smaller nations (Oceanic, african and asian nations) are impossible to find big enough to have them in 180 * 180 px size. I know as I've been making faces and logos for the African nations.

Personally I think this new size is a bit of wasting your customers time, as a lot of people have used plenty of time to make faces and logos, and now they have to do it again. Also after being a daily reader of the forums at Susie and FMGLive I'm pretty sure that most of the people around have been happy about the graphics size.

Because I've spent a lot of time making faces and logos I have a couple of questions I hop eyou could take your time to answer:

1. Will this new size mean I just can throw my 140 * 180 px and 95* 95 px sized facepacks in the bin? Or could you develop the skin to handle smaller faces to?

2. Amost the Same question as number 1. but this is about the logos. Does this new size mean I'll have to throw all my African Logos sized 70* 70 px or 120 * 120 in the bin?

3. Isn't there a way you can make the game handle the faces and logos in smaller sizes too?

retired_2symonds

I don't think that is a good enough reason not to try and improve the way the game looks and the way we use the licenses we have.

Again, the further down the league divisions you go, the harder it is to find suitable quality images. We've had that problem ourselves. I still don't think that's a reason not to move things forward though and improve the look of our game.

A lot of people have made logos etc and spent time on them, yes. That's great to see. We've also spent a lot of time updating all the logos, kits and player pictures in the game so we know exactly what it takes to do all this stuff and the time it consumes. In the end, I (personally) think it's well worth it for the results and improved appearance that you get from it. I wouldn't consider it wasting time either. We want to move on and improve things and make the most of the licenses we have. We can't stay static and keep things the same all the time.


You can change the skin to handle smaller images, yes. They will still work but will probably not look as nice and logos will be scaled up if they are too small and will look 'blurry'.

See previous reply.

They will still display, but we're not going to add support for smaller logos. It shouldn't be too much work for someone to create a new skin that supports smaller logos.

Hope my answers have been helpful

Jeffrey99

Just curious can logos be matched to teams with the editor like if I go to Spanish 2nd Division B whom I made a logo, search team and there is a "logo" button so I can pick it for it?

retired_2symonds

No, you can't pick logos in the editor, it doesn't quite work that way.

Jeffrey99

Ok, thanks for the quick answer, only hope is easy for everyone to do and add them :p

retired_shekhar

I think you should implement the option an chooseable option to have the game not scaling smaller images up.

We will probably never agree about if this new size is a step forward or backward. In my mind making changes that excludes club logos and player faces is not.

Anyway if you consider how many persons around the community that have been making logo, faces etc. shouldn't SI respected their time end instead of just introducing this new size, made some research around and found out about how many of the gameplayers that wanted this change? Making such huge changes as resizing logos and faces is something you shouldn't have done before it was a demand from the community, and this time around it wasn't.

I've already seen a lot of people beeing quite angry about this as they feel all their work is a waste. And if the gameplayers doesn't like the change it's not moving forward it's moving backwards. You know Ter, all changes aren't positiv. Some times it could be smart to stay static as you might have reached a level were things are good enough.

retired_2symonds

Like I said above, we're not going to be able to do this. It should be quite simple for someone to create a new skin that will support smaller logos.

We can't keep supporting logo packs and stuff from previous games forever.

We do appreciate the time people have taken to make custom content for the game. We're not just dumping the change on you either. The new dimensions of the images and styling of them has been given to you so there is a lot of time before the game comes out to get new logo packs created. It's actually simpler this time around as there are no 'huge' logos required or cutouts on the background left/right logos. I would imagine that most of these people who create logos will have sourced the highest quality image they could find and not just discarded it afterwards.

I've not seen many people 'angry' and most people have been positive about the changes. You might believe that the logos/faces before were good enough but we're an ambitious bunch and the last thing we want to do is have the game stay static and stagnate. It's definitely a change for the better. I'm sure you'll agree once you see the game in action.

shine35

In my opinion it is a very good idea to finally leave the small logos and leave all the work behind. There's also a problem of mixing logo different types. Sometimes it looks nasty to have two different logo types for different nations or leagues. A new type of graphics would be a good step forward. I just wish somebody would do logos in ONE type for most of the teams, same like facepacks, kits etc.

retired_2symonds

Rem-8 - At least with the different types of logos / kits / facepacks that are available you have a choice of which ones you want to use.

shine35

True, although I'm not the biggest graphic artist and If one type of gfx suits me, there are only few leagues in such type made, others are in other type etc. I just like order, mess in graphic types is not for me. Especially in kits, when I found only big kit template for League A, and playing with team in League B I had a match overview panel with team names in different heights.