ssstupido

hi, today i have downloaded and installed the new 8.01 patch, and after that i played some time with my current game with real madrid. first, i have to say that i havent played enough to have a strong opinion, but on my short experience, there is a problem that hasnt been solved with computer goalkeepers. i played 4 games, and on 3 of them the opponent GK was man of match saving more than 20 shots every time.

well, that is not the reason of this post. i already opened a discussion about it some days ago. the reason for this post is about pre-scripted events on games. is that possible?

i'll try to explain what i mean. i had to play a league game away against mallorca. everything was going fine until minute 33 when Gago was sent off for a violent faul with 0-0. ok, sneijder, midfield is now all yours.

wrong, 8 minutes later, sneijder was injured. after switching him for Diarra, the game crashed. i though it was maybe a compatibility issue with the new patch, but since many years ago i have the caution to save the game before each match to minimize this kind of problems.

so i load the game again, and to my surprise, at minute 20 marcelo gets sent off, and during mid second half Saviola is injured. i thought that it looked a bit smelly, so i closed the game and loaded it up again.

and again, during the first half, sneijder got injured again, and at the beggining of the second half Pepe was sent off. mmm, smelly cat, smelly cat.

so there i went again, i closed the game and loaded it again. and of course, again, during the first half, robinho was injured, and some minutes later Raul was sent off.

this is where i thought i should post it on the forums to see if this is a well known fact, or if i am the only one experiencing this kind of predefined destiny.

i have to say that my team is not set to make violent tackles and that all the players that were on the starting eleven were in good fit and had no health problems

ssstupido

yay, fith try, now its ramos that has been injured, and sneijder sent off

chopper99

How very strange. I don't believe there are pre-determined events in the game but I do think you should upload your save in the bugs forum so someone can have a look at it.

red_mice

Correct me if I am wrong, but when you start a game, the sequence of events is determined. That's why you are able to just see the highlights, they are already decided. Now, if you make a tactical change, what is actually calculated is the rest of the game from that point onwards.

ssstupido

sixth try, i decided to change some settings on my tactics. i raised tackles from normal to strong, and also added tight marking.

consequences? i injured 3 mallorca players, sneijder was sent off, but not for violent fouls, one yellow card for arguing with the ref, the other for loosing time (although it is set to never loose time) with 0-0. all that on the first half. on the second half raul was injured, thus completing the circle.

will keep updating with next tries

ssstupido

mmm, but then why the score has been quite different? i have won 3 games, lost 2 and was 0-0 on the one that crashed. also, the injured and sent off players are not the same on all the games.

maybe i didnt understand you well. but what i think you are saying is that everything is decided before actually starting the match, right? it that is so, then why make tactical changes during the match?

LFC Lloydy

You are correct, just before a match starts it is all calculated then recalculated if there is a tactical change. That doesn't mean a match should be the same every time though because a lot of the calculation has a randomness to it and the different factors that form the calculation can be different.

This match sounds very weird, although it could happen it is unlikely. I' m not accusing you of lying but would it be possible to see some screenshots?

isuckatfm

@ssstupido:@ssstupido

How big is your save game? Any chance of uploading it on rapidshare or megaupload?

Just curious to see this in action.

ssstupido

You are correct, just before a match starts it is all calculated then recalculated if there is a tactical change. That doesn't mean a match should be the same every time though because a lot of the calculation has a randomness to it and the different factors that form the calculation can be different.

This match sounds very weird, although it could happen it is unlikely. I' m not accusing you of lying but would it be possible to see some screenshots? </BLOCKQUOTE>

no, cause at first i didnt thought it would turn out this way. but i will take them from now on.

now, on the seventh and eigth games i changed sneijder (no matter what, he was almost always either sent off or injured) for diarra, put tackling on easy and uncheked tigth marking

first time, i won 0-2, Ramos was sent off, but nobody was injured.

so next i tried changing the tactics more. i took out a forward (saviola) and introduced another midfielder (Fabregas).

this time, i lost 2-1, but nobody was either injured or sent off, so i continued with the game

pd: i know it sounds very weird, that is why i posted it, to see if it was happening to anybody else, although i know that if it happened it would probably go unnoticed since i do not think anybody repeats every match 3 or 4 times.

as Lloydy says, even if the outcome is defined at the begining, it shouldnt be so similar on every game.

weelillad

@ssstupido:

this is really interesting, would it be too much trouble to try this on a different match, and let us know the results?