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Old 11-23-2007, 09:33 AM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #21
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I don't doubt that your ratio is 1 in 4. It's just not the case in mine. Maybe it's the formation. Maybe it's the players. But I suspect it could be the engine.

I'm not here because I'm losing matches. Like I said in my first post, I don't want my team to score more. I want the engine to be fixed so that I don't dominate a far superior team away. The ratio is skewed because my midfielders are taking all these long range shots despite my tactics being strictly against it.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:02 AM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #22
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If the engine was like real life it would be boring.

Personally, I'm finding the balance perfect. Ok, so I have 20 or so shots on goal, 9 or 10 on target and score anything between 2 and 5 goals per match.

Seems fine to me.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:11 AM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #23
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Quote:
Originally posted by urbanjunkie:
If the engine was like real life it would be boring.

Personally, I'm finding the balance perfect. Ok, so I have 20 or so shots on goal, 9 or 10 on target and score anything between 2 and 5 goals per match.

Seems fine to me.
I agree!!

The AI seems to have a high amount of shots on goal in my games, but everyone focus's on their own stats!!

I think the balance is fine!

Maybe people should study the premiership games this weekend and see the stats, which wouldn't be massively different from the ratio's in FM.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:14 AM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #24
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Quote:
Originally posted by Roscoe9:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by urbanjunkie:
If the engine was like real life it would be boring.

Personally, I'm finding the balance perfect. Ok, so I have 20 or so shots on goal, 9 or 10 on target and score anything between 2 and 5 goals per match.

Seems fine to me.
I agree!!

The AI seems to have a high amount of shots on goal in my games, but everyone focus's on their own stats!!

I think the balance is fine!

Maybe people should study the premiership games this weekend and see the stats, which wouldn't be massively different from the ratio's in FM. </BLOCKQUOTE>

AI rarelly has more than 5 shots against me - 2/3 are on goal, while I even managed 31/19 against ManUnited and won the game 2-1
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:19 AM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #25
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Started on holiday and simulated to November 2007 just to make a quick comparison to the stats I provided above.

In game shots (on AND off target) after 12 games into season 1:

Man Utd - 11.2
Arsenal - 11.1
Liverpool - 11.5
Tottenham - 9.1
Chelsea - 9.8
Middlesbrough - 10.3
West Ham - 9.9
Everton - 11
Newcastle - 10.3
Man City - 9.4
Blackburn - 9.3
Derby - 7.6
Reading - 8.8
Sunderland - 9
Bolton - 9
Birmingham - 8.2
Fulham - 7.6
Aston Villa - 10.5
Portsmouth - 9.2
Wigan - 8
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:26 AM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #26
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Myros:
As I mentioned on another thread Man U are currently running 26 shots per goal after 13 games, Man City are close to the same. (yes thats real world ie for every goal scored they are taking 26 shots that dont score, thats pretty close to the in-game stats I see people whining about)

Do people actualy watch/follow real football? Or do they just log on to complain how they THINK it's played? ;p

M
Myros - Where the hell are you getting your stats from mate, or are you just making them up?.

Have a look at this?.

According to the Barclays Premier League stats, Man Utd are averaging about 1 goal every 8 shots and 1 goal every 4 on target!.

Stop making up crazy stats mate, you just make yourself look stupid.

Stats correct up until 5th November. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Checking my source I noticed that it was old taken from weeks ago on goal.com http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.a...enutoId=422997

So your right, they have imrpoved since then (just as well lol) But it doesnt change the fact they were at 26 shots per goal earlier in the season.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:13 PM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #27
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Quote:
Originally posted by swede:
Started on holiday and simulated to November 2007 just to make a quick comparison to the stats I provided above.

In game shots (on AND off target) after 12 games into season 1:

Man Utd - 11.2
Arsenal - 11.1
Liverpool - 11.5
Tottenham - 9.1
Chelsea - 9.8
Middlesbrough - 10.3
West Ham - 9.9
Everton - 11
Newcastle - 10.3
Man City - 9.4
Blackburn - 9.3
Derby - 7.6
Reading - 8.8
Sunderland - 9
Bolton - 9
Birmingham - 8.2
Fulham - 7.6
Aston Villa - 10.5
Portsmouth - 9.2
Wigan - 8
Looks fine to me. In real life shots are about similar levels, unless a team is dominating.

I could give many, many real life examples of the whole loads of shots but still loose category. Newcastle-Fulham last season springs to mind, with Newcastle dominating the game but still managing to loose 4-1.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:33 PM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #28
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I think theres too much polarisation of views here.

Group one = "Theres a huge problem and theres too many chances not being converted"

Group two = "Its your tactics"


However I think the issue isnt as black and white, whilst in previous versions we always get these posts and they could be explained away by tactics Im not sure thats the case this time by what Ive seen.

I personally play 442, nothing too drastic and I rarely see unrealistic games. However thats not to say that playing a certain way doenst create untoward stats in the match engine.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:36 PM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #29
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What I think I'm seeing is unrealistic shot counts and misses when using a single striker.
It's hard to analyse something like this but someone else mentioned this earlier.

It would help if we could prove or disprove that.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:37 PM   Should SI release a fix for the shots/goals ratio Post #30
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My strikers are really missing silly shots - shooting straight at goalkeepers or missing the goal for more meters then their distance from goals ... I don't hink that's tactics only - and yes my strikers have high finishing, composure, concentration - Henry, Aguerro, Bojan.
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