Pondus

I just noticed a change in the game regarding player positions. It now seems that every player who is an accomplished or naural attacking midfielder, also is an accomplished normal midfielder. Surely a player can be able to play as an AM behind a striker without really being fully acomplished as a MC (or R/L). The way the game is now means players such as Raul, Messi, Del Piero, Tevez, Recoba, Totti etc. are fully accomplished MCs. I really don't see them being that comfortable with the position. Maybe as competent/orange dot, but no more. I don't think it was like this before the patch, and certainly not in other versions since the position screen was introduced. Why the sudden change now? Any thoughts?

mastema

and do you actually believe that an AMC can't be a MC? from my point of view, an AMC is an MC with on attacking edge, not a defensive FC.

redmark

If I have a player at MC with an arrow to AMC, which is he? Why should his performance and stats be damaged by playing (half the time, presumably) in the "wrong" position? Makes sense, IMO.

Pondus

Off course an AMC can be a MC, but not every single AMC. A player usually playing upfront may be able to play a bit further back, but not as far back as a normal midfield position. Raul is a good example. He used to be have FC and AMC as green dot/accoplished positions. Now he, and every other AM, has midfield added as an accoplished position.

Bloke

This is an interesting topic and something I have also noticed and pondered.

I kind of agree with everyone - it is a bit of a conundrum.

I tend to play 442 with one central midfielder arrowed to AMC and the other tweaked to stay,hold. I look for a high work rate, tough tackling hard man for this role and a creative for the more attacking central role.

However, due to injuries, substitutions, etc I have often put a fairy into this holding mC role and they do seem to get good ratings and perform just as well (TOO WELL REALLY) as an MC with the correct attributes (work rate,tackling,stamina,strength).

So I generally concur with the thoughts of the original poster. It seems a little too easy to bung any midfielder into the central roles.

redmark

I'd sort of agree, that a FC/AMC player shouldn't automatically get an MC 'accomplished' too; but a player primarily an AMC should, IMO.

Pondus

My point is that the way positions are set now MC will not be the 'wrong' position. He is just as much a midfielder as a forward. 'Competent' as MC should give the effect you mention. Able to handle it, but not comfortable there every game.

Pondus

Exactly what I mean.

Bloke

When I consider stick legs Kieran Dyer, Jenas, etc with Carsley, Scott Parker, Keane, Kavanagh I tend to disagree.

But the I think of Scholes, Bowyer, Gerard, Lampard and I can agree.

So of course the differences/focus is on player attributes rather than hardwired positions.

Maybe the current match engine is too (only?) focussed on the "preferred positions" ratings and the actual individual players stats are useless apart from player vs player calculations ?

If this is so (and the database is set as the OP idicates) then it is a little disappointing.

Pondus

But players like that are not the issue here. They ARE midfielders. Forward type players playing either upfront or in a 'number 10' role is the problem. They should not automatically be accomplished MCs in the game. Earlier a player would to be able to have AMC/FC as his 'green' positions, now the game has given all these players green for MC as well.