retired_globalmall

This might be a really stupid question but what does 188/198 and PA mean??

:S </BLOCKQUOTE>

PA is the abbreviation of "Potential Ability" and 188/198 means current ability/potential ability(CA/PA).
Current ability is a sort of caluclated sum of various abilities of a player and potential ability means the highest peak of ability he can develop.
So generally better player have higher CA and more talented player have higher PA.
(But not alway, because distribution of several abilities is also important.) </BLOCKQUOTE>

So the CA is made up by adding up all the players attributes??

How do you find out your players PA?? </BLOCKQUOTE>

1) No
2) FM Scout or an Editor.

retired_rosie harden

Its a football cliche but Messi is a more complete player than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo is the best all out wide player in world football right now, Kaka the best attack based central player but Messi offers what they both offer put together.

He cannot be classed as either a wide or central player for me because he is both. He is a hybrid and the best natural talent in terms of skill and consitency in top level football right now.

All three are massively entertaining although these discussions often dismiss the more defensively minded players who are often equally as good at what they do as these guys.

Mascherano for instance is as good as any defensive midfielder you would like to find. Incredible talent and it is hard to say that the likes of Kaka, who he marked out of last years CL final, are better players.

buffdaddy110

Hey thanks for the player naming and spoiler in yur thread title :thdn:

retired_sexy_chili25

How much money would we need to put Ronaldo Kaka messi on the same team ? 250 million ?

Man i remember when messi was a boy and we could get him on free transfer for f**k all gone are the days, we need new messi's and Ronaldos, these players are untouchable now

retired_muicris

Yep, time moves on...

retired_muicris

but... you can have Messi, Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry in the same team... plus Dos Santos etc... - being Barca would be just too easy...

retired_amcruz28

1. - I should be able to call them what I like mate, it's my team.

2. - With all due respect, in my honest opinion Ronaldo has yet to prove himself against the big teams for us - he tends to dissapear against the big teams when he's tightly marked - but I don't mind because we have many match winners.

Anyway that is what seperates him from Kaka and Messi, who seem to perform better the higher the class of the opposition.

Like I said that's my opinion and football is about opinions... </BLOCKQUOTE>

2. And where has Messi shined so much against the big teams?? The only time I remember him playing good against a top team of the top of my head was in El Classico when he scored a hat-trick. Ronaldo has scored loads of goals against Arsenal, and set up goals against Chelsea and Liverpool. Last season's champs league saw ronaldo set up our away goal against Roma, and then scored two and set up some in the home fixture. what did messi do last year?? what did Barca win last year with super-messi??

oh, and how many times did he start in the world cup?? oh, yeah he barely made the bench

retired_muicris

ok so Messi did nothing last year? and this year?
o and the World Cup was nearly 2 years ago...

fact is they are both top players, some think one is better than the other. its opinions.

retired_amcruz28

he played good, i'm not saying he's not a good player. he's a great player with a lot of potential but i think he's overrated. to be branded as good as maradona and the best player in europe just because he scored two similar goals and had some nice games is a joke.

retired_prshank

I guess you havent watched messi play in the copa america and the world cup qualifiers then, Much better oppersition then "la liga small teams", and yes he rips them apart by himself... Hes got much better team play then Ronaldo, far better composure in front of goal, and i belive he would easy take apart any English defence... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, im Brazillian, and i watched the whole Copa America. I actually thought Argentina would beat Brazil. Believe me, Messi is not that good when he faces great players or great teams. And, hes not that god. C. Ronaldo is easily a more complete player than he is.