retired_pamjoseph

yes you are. I'm fan of Real Madrid (so I don't like Barcelona at all) but I admit that messi is probably the player with best future. Last derbi at Camp Nou he scored a hattrick to neutralize 3 goals from Madrid, and all 3 goals were great and due to his genius.

retired_juliejay

where can you find ca and pa figures?

retired_muicris

I am a Man U fan and believe me Ronaldo is NOT anywhere near Messi class, the kid is something else...

train

They look very similar, imho, theres no one particular thing that defines one better than the other.

HAWK23

1. If you're a Manchester United fan, then you of all people should know not to call them "Man U".

2. Even if Messi is better (which is debatable), he is not THAT much better. It's very close between Ronaldo, Messi and Kaka (maybe even Fabregas). To say that Messi is "something else" is misleading. The Maradonna comparisons wouldn't even be happening if he weren't Argentine...

Ansthenia

clar, what picpack is that you are using? And what is included in it?

Bear in mind I have never ever downloaded a pic pack for any previous version of FM

retired_Lnd-Boy

This might be a really stupid question but what does 188/198 and PA mean??

:S </BLOCKQUOTE>

PA is the abbreviation of "Potential Ability" and 188/198 means current ability/potential ability(CA/PA).
Current ability is a sort of caluclated sum of various abilities of a player and potential ability means the highest peak of ability he can develop.
So generally better player have higher CA and more talented player have higher PA.
(But not alway, because distribution of several abilities is also important.) </BLOCKQUOTE>

So the CA is made up by adding up all the players attributes??

How do you find out your players PA??

retired_muicris

1. - I should be able to call them what I like mate, it's my team.

2. - With all due respect, in my honest opinion Ronaldo has yet to prove himself against the big teams for us - he tends to dissapear against the big teams when he's tightly marked - but I don't mind because we have many match winners.

Anyway that is what seperates him from Kaka and Messi, who seem to perform better the higher the class of the opposition.

Like I said that's my opinion and football is about opinions...

retired_prshank

Actually, Messi is kinda more 'real' now. Before the patch, he started with "Acceleration: 20" and Ronaldo with 18, wich is ridiculous. It's obvious that C. Ronaldo runs a lot more than Messi, and got more pace.
And i must disagree with who says Messi is better than Ronaldo, its non-sense. Messi is a crazy runner, who can drible. Ronaldo can't run past defenders in England like Messi does in Spain, Premiership defenders are not that stupid. It's clearly proved that Premiership small teams are better than many La Liga average teams. C. Ronaldo is not just a crazy runner. Besides doing tricks to dismount the defence, he really mounts counter-attacks, create clear chances of goals and sometimes score. C. Ronaldo is a winger, and i would not say Messi is too. He's almost a second striker.
C. Ronaldo is an excelent header, shoots with both feet with great strenght, is really creative and is really good crossing.

Oh, i just wrote all that cuz im sick of all those ppl who say sh*t about how godlike is messi... ;P

retired_sexy_chili25

I guess you havent watched messi play in the copa america and the world cup qualifiers then, Much better oppersition then "la liga small teams", and yes he rips them apart by himself... Hes got much better team play then Ronaldo, far better composure in front of goal, and i belive he would easy take apart any English defence...