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Old 11-22-2007, 09:59 PM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #101
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Ronaldo is 60% entertainer - 40% footballer.

Messi is 100% footballer.

That makes Messi 60% superior in my opinion.

We've heard for years about this guy and that guy being the ubiquitous 'new Maradona'...This guy is it. The real deal. He's going to do things in the near future that some of us thought we'd never see again.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:46 PM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #102
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:thdn:

Messi pace 17!

more like about 11 or 12, he aint quick by any stretch
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:54 PM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #103
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Messi pace 17!

more like about 11 or 12, he aint quick by any stretch
Even more power to him then!Ronaldo goes past players mostly by outruning them.You need superb skill to beat players when you're not that fast.Ronaldo is a great player but Messi is the most exciting player to appear in football in the last 15-20 years and this is coming from a Man Utd sympathiser.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:06 PM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #104
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Ronaldo has a couple of valuable years on Messi, this discussion needs to be put on the backburner for a couple of years till Messi matures and we can see how much of that potential he reaches. I don't even feel Ronaldo's reached his peak yet either.

As for Ronaldinho, a user on here put it best with a comment in his Location field, Ronaldinho = bottler! Hes terribly inconsistent in my opinion, even when he was playing for PSG
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:00 AM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #105
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Silva from valencia is much better.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:14 AM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #106
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Silva isnt even in the same class as either, the closest to the two is Ribery. anyhow, messi clearly isnt so hot, If Ronaldinho doesnt play well then Barce generally lose. If messi was so good then he would be able to carry them like Ronaldinho did and still does.

When Ronaldo played well last year, United generally won, and they lifted the title which unlucky Barce didnt
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:01 AM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #107
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Silva isnt even in the same class as either, the closest to the two is Ribery. anyhow, messi clearly isnt so hot, If Ronaldinho doesnt play well then Barce generally lose. If messi was so good then he would be able to carry them like Ronaldinho did and still does.

When Ronaldo played well last year, United generally won, and they lifted the title which unlucky Barce didnt
Only recently, when Ronaldinho apparently 'refused' to travel to an away game, Messi destroyed the opposition and provoked a 'Who needs Ronaldinho?' response from Barca fans
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:04 AM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #108
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How do you find out your players PA??
You don't, without cheating.

(or you can look in the data editor)
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:53 AM   WOW Messi rules in 8.0.1! Post #109
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Okay, i have to comment on this Messi debate

I'm a lifelong united fan, just so you know my background. However...

I believe that Messi is just a tad better than Ronaldo. Would i swap Ronaldo for Messi? Of course not, Ronaldo is a united hero, his scoring rate is immense and he's a truly gritty player. But Messi controls a team of egos and outshines them all at the age of 20.

He consistently outperforms Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Henry, and it doesn't seem to matter who's around him. If Rijkaard can only pic one forward player, he pics Messi, then two others. As for Cristiano Ronaldo, he gets much better when coupled with Wayne Rooney, his goals drop off without Rooney. I'm not even sure who's better between Rooney and Ronaldo, let alone Messi.

Ronaldo obliterates league opposition, he's the most direct player there is, his pace, both footed-ness and aerial presence means he's unstoppable to most teams. However, in big games, he can be marginalised if teams focus on taking him away (See: Milan 07). Wayne Rooney, however, is just as effective against all opposition in all circumstances. (See: Milan 07) In our really big games, i look too Rooney first if i'm honest. And this is how i see Messi. World-class but ultra-reliable.

There really is so little between it that it's almost irrelevant, but even if Messi is only as good as Ronaldo, the fact that he's only 20 still clinches it for him.

But i wouldn't swap Rooney or Ronaldo for him, no chance. Messi is Barcelona these days, and the two R's are Manchester United.
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