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Old 01-24-2007, 07:13 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #101
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These are the goals I have conceded so far.. going for a high-tempo wide direct 442 with my hereford side.

Home

left-back drawn forwards and beaten, cb beaten to ball
no-one marking striker
striker beat defender in 50-50 ball
poor clearance from full-back accross the box to opp striker

away
direct free kick
keeper flapped at a cross
right back cocked up interception, miscontrolled through to other team's striker
free kick deflected
goalmouth scramble
striker skins centre-back and scores
long clearance to centre back pulled out wide, pass-back to keeper with striker lurking
poor clearance to oppo player, fed long through-ball to striker
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Old 01-24-2007, 07:14 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #102
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Quote:
Originally posted by paz:
I have the same problem as Aktsjon - is it the final build that is required or something
I have the final build but if you see my previous post, stupid defender mistakes are still a problem. I'm using man marking.
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Old 01-24-2007, 08:25 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #103
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Nope, fraid I'm going to have to ditch this before it gets me relegated, I'm shipping goals left right and centre.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:02 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #104
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Quote:
Originally posted by Arsenal71:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by crazy gra:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arsenal71:
Id be interested to see anyones instructions for the higher leagues and their successes.
I've not played many games with these new frameworks in place, but I feel they are certainly better than the tactics I created (which some people in my tactic thread have said are brilliant anyway).

If you want any screenshots then just let me know here. :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Screenshots of how you play would be good. I just still feel that these tactics atm are not suited for the high pace and attacking football of the premiership. You are asked to take the right to win but there is just something not right with these tactics atm imo. I'll persist with them and see what happens.

Just would like to know how they have been adapted for the expectancy of wining in the higher league. </BLOCKQUOTE>

OK, i'll get onto doing some. I've just played one game in particular that is suited brilliantly to this. you'll see .....
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:18 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #105
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I haven't tried these theories in the lower leagues, but it does seem that in the Premiership and MLS where I also tried it that the defenders are error prone and get skinned too easily (possibly due to the man marking against more skillful opposition). Also the defensive away tactic rarely works for me, it seems to invite too much pressure and my team ends up letting the opposition recycle their attacks with hopeless punts up field. Against the better sides in the league I've been ripped apart with this defensive framework even with the low mentalities and seemingly good defensive structure, the quality of opposition mean they can pick passes through the back line with ease.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:38 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #106
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Man marking has to go I'm afraid. Zonal seems a lot better. It still doesn't work on FM2007 then.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:42 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #107
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@ Arsenal71: Since employing these tactics with Newcastle (2009/2010) I am on a marathon unbeaten streak (think I've reached 15 games with this tactic in all competitions now - PL/CL/CC) and I am absolutely dominating teams at home in terms of posession/shots/pass accuracy (even the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool). While away from home I sometimes have less posession, but always more shots on goal and a massively superior tackle/pass percentage.

Not only that, the football my team seem to be playing is electric when I compare it to the previous three seasons. My fullbacks are scoring from open play, my wingers are having a huge influence on games and my attacking midfielders are performing better than ever. The biggest difference, though, has come with using Zigic/Carew in the target man role that wwfan suggests - both are scoring/assisting loads and getting plenty of MOM awards.

I was doing pretty brilliantly beforehand anyway, but I've also had a run of 6 clean sheets (against some good teams) and it just seems to be such an exciting way of playing.

Here are the results of the 15 games:



And here are my 5 tactics:

&lt;a href="http://www.fmdatahost.com/uploads/c25c53e74b231e6124375dda3e47f04c4-4-2-Newcastle-(H)-(Newcastle,-Dec-2009).tac"&gt;Home&lt;/a&gt;
href="http://www.fmdatahost.com/uploads/7ece051a20a4f1481eed7018a780e42b4-4-2-Newcastle-(A)-UltAtt-(Newcastle,-Dec-2009).tac"&gt;Away - Ultra Attacking&lt;/a&gt;
href="http://www.fmdatahost.com/uploads/14da67e43b2ed49735d9a12cb63320914-4-2-Newcastle-(A)-Att-(Newcastle,-Dec-2009).tac"&gt;Away - Attacking&lt;/a&gt;
href="http://www.fmdatahost.com/uploads/6c5729cf7e7d618c652644a87dccd5394-4-2-Newcastle-(A)-Def-(Newcastle,-Dec-2009).tac"&gt;Away - Defensive&lt;/a&gt;
href="http://www.fmdatahost.com/uploads/1bf6e6dccde75491ade739da890da3cb4-4-2-Newcastle-(A)-UltDef-(Newcastle,-Dec-2009).tac"&gt;Away - Ultra Defensive&lt;/a&gt;

Here are a few descriptions of my preferred players:

GK - Shay Given / Tim Krul - nothing special to note.

RB - Eduardo Ratinho / Giles Barnes - both loaded with pace, with excellent crossing/dribbling/tackling/marking/heading/positioning/jumping, too.

LB - Fabio Aurelio / Gareth Bale - both are quick, deadly from set-plays and have good-excellent stats in the fields mentioned for RB.

RCB - Marco Andreolli / Steven Taylor - tackling/marking/heading/positioning/jumping/concentration/bravery/pace/acceleration all 15+.

LCB - Vedran Corluka / Curtis Davies - same as RCB.

RM - Rodrigo Palacio / Andrea Gasbarroni - typical winger stats are extremely high, 20/20 for pace/accel on both.

LM - Charles N'Zogbia / Mauro Esposito - same as RM, but slower.

DM - Papa Bouba Diop / Alou Diarra - excellent in the air, my two favourite DM's on the game due to their positioning/heading/jumping/tackling/marking, etc.

AM - Federico Insua / Belozoglu Emre - small midfield playmakers with good pace and high stats for creativity/set plays/decisions, etc. Both angry little wasps.

ST - Nikola Zigic / John Carew - classic target men, excellent jump/heading and decent acc/pace (12/15 for Zigic & 15/15 for Carew.) Also high finishing/composure.

FC - Obafemi Martins / Michael Owen - speed, finishing, composure, just the usual for small strikers.


Just thought I would post that to show what type of players I use within the tactics that I've posted. I always like to use big CB's/DM's and have fullbacks who are both good attacking and defensively. Cannot stand having FB's who can't do both.

Wingers should ideally be electric with high finishing stats and almost all of my team is 15/15+ for teamwork/workrate. I always use teamwork/workrate within my parameters for every single position that I spend money on.

Dusan Basta and Juan are both merely used as emergency players, although both are excellent, especially Basta due to the massive number of positions he covers. (Had Mark Wilson previously.)

Basically, your Arsenal team is probably better than my Newcastle team, so these tactics should be even more effective for you! I wish I had an Henry or a Fabregas...
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:47 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #108
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Didn't realise HTML doesn't work...

Tactics:

Home
Away - Ultra Attacking Away - Attacking Away - Defensive Away - Ultra Defensive
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:09 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #109
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Right, here's what I've done for different games so far:

Home

Home tactic instructions

v Porthsmouth, home

v Watford, home


Away Attacking

Away attacking tactic instructions

v Arsenal, away

v PSV, away


Away v quick tempo teams

Away v quick tempo tactic instructions

v Middlesborough, away


You'll see from some of these that I didn't particularly dominate either in terms of possession or shots/SOTs, but the results are clear for themselves.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:43 PM   TT&F IV: New Strategies and Theories for '07 Post #110
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Well i've been trying this for a couple games and the form is acceptable really:

Recent form:

I was also 2nd when i 1st started using this. My away form was bad so i thought i would give it a go.

League table:

Crazy gra, i'll have a go with your mentalities, if you don't mind? As your winning and using the players i'm using, it should work for me.
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