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I did a search but could not really find a answer to these questions:
Is there a limit to a persons strength stat? Like if he starts at 2 can I get it to 20 if he trains enough?
How long does said training take?
You see I bought Buonanotte of River as a experiment. He has super low strength (1) but good technical attributes, so I gave him a almost entirely strength based schedule and put him on it for a year but it didn't really go up much, 2 points I think, but in real life in a year he'd easily reach 20. Does the game not work like that, does it only do it slowly over the course of 3 years or so?
potential ability will play a big part in how much a player improvers. if the current ability and potential ability are similar or the same i.e he is maxed out on how much more he can learn then say for e.g he is being trained by you excessively in physical training then he will drop technical attributes for physical ones but only in line with his maxed out potential if you get me.
Originally posted by Vicente14:
I did a search but could not really find a answer to these questions:
Is there a limit to a persons strength stat? Like if he starts at 2 can I get it to 20 if he trains enough?
How long does said training take?
You see I bought Buonanotte of River as a experiment. He has super low strength (1) but good technical attributes, so I gave him a almost entirely strength based schedule and put him on it for a year but it didn't really go up much, 2 points I think, but in real life in a year he'd easily reach 20. Does the game not work like that, does it only do it slowly over the course of 3 years or so?
It is unrealistic to expect a player with an attribute of 1 in any area to improve to 20 despite whatever training you give him Of course he will improve some with intensive training but an attribute increase of 3 or 4 is as much as you can expect, depending on the quality of the coaches as well.
In a young player with a high PA, individual attribute rises of 1 or 2 per season is normal so I think your expectations are far too high.
Originally posted by FrazT:
It is unrealistic to expect a player with an attribute of 1 in any area to improve to 20 despite whatever training you give him.
Well... not with strength training. I could easily become some super huge guy if I went to the gym for 12 months. That's all I was trying to find out, if strength was seperate fom the CA/PA.
Originally posted by Vicente14:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by FrazT:
It is unrealistic to expect a player with an attribute of 1 in any area to improve to 20 despite whatever training you give him.
Well... not with strength training. I could easily become some super huge guy if I went to the gym for 12 months. That's all I was trying to find out, if strength was seperate fom the CA/PA. </BLOCKQUOTE>Firstly i can bet you any money you won't get super huge by going to gym for only 12 months (i've been doing it for 5 years) that's unless you use steroids etc. Secondly only the players with potential in that category will achieve higher stat on it, by this i mean, a young player with 12 on strength is more likely to reach 20, than the one with 2 depending on their respective potential of course.
Originally posted by Vicente14:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by FrazT:
It is unrealistic to expect a player with an attribute of 1 in any area to improve to 20 despite whatever training you give him.
Well... not with strength training. I could easily become some super huge guy if I went to the gym for 12 months. That's all I was trying to find out, if strength was seperate fom the CA/PA. </BLOCKQUOTE>
I suspect you have never been to a gym- how come all these guys who go every night of the week are not superhuman! This is nonsense and rememeber that you are starting out from a base of strength equivalent to having none at all, so your example is still not realistic.
If a player starts out with strength of 15, he can maybe get up to 18 with constant training but, as was said above, if he is at or close to his PA then he will never get much higher.
I have been to a gym. I remember when I started, within 6 months my stamina had gone from being non-existant (like 12 minutes at slightly more than a jog) to doing two rounds on the treadmill with the auto-safety shutout at running pace. I didn't do so many weights. But yeah, you might only be doing a few hours a week, like I said in my post (even though we're getting way off the point) the guys schedule was 100% strength and aerobic training with a little (maybe 10%) of attack and ball control. So he must be spending 4 hours minimum a day in the gym. So that's 20 hours a week bare minimum with a dietician too most likely. I'm quite confident if I were on that schedule that within 12 months I'd be as strong as a guy with 20 strength.
Anyway, my question was if strength was seperate from CA/PA, it's not, so that's that I guess, thanks for the help.
Originally posted by Vicente14:
I have been to a gym. I remember when I started, within 6 months my stamina had gone from being non-existant (like 12 minutes at slightly more than a jog) to doing two rounds on the treadmill with the auto-safety shutout at running pace. I didn't do so many weights. But yeah, you might only be doing a few hours a week, like I said in my post (even though we're getting way off the point) the guys schedule was 100% strength and aerobic training with a little (maybe 10%) of attack and ball control. So he must be spending 4 hours minimum a day in the gym. So that's 20 hours a week bare minimum with a dietician too most likely. I'm quite confident if I were on that schedule that within 12 months I'd be as strong as a guy with 20 strength.
Anyway, my question was if strength was seperate from CA/PA, it's not, so that's that I guess, thanks for the help.
I agree with this, and i think that this is where natural fitness should come into play, if someone has a high natural fitness they should be able to attain and maintain high levels of stamina, strength etc quite easily with the correct training.
in real life very few players can reach what you would consider a 20 str guy,,,like didier drogba, michael essien george weah( he reportly would leg press 600lbs in training squats of 130kg (285lbs).... There genetic build and limit is for str 20 with correct training, they are blessed with being exceptional athletes and that particular build
No matter how much training robbie fowler, micahel oster p nevvile and any other similar people you can think of none attain any where near the strengh of the likes of drogba and co...is just not possible for them...even if 20hrs in gym per week will max out at there potential,,,which proberly in game terms would be str 13 or so....with less empahasis on training would be around 8-12 region
there should only be very few people in game you can reach str 20
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