KeljuK

I'm currently playing Finnish team FC Honka. I keep on winning in finnish league with slightly modified B1GD tactic, and now I'm facing AS Roma in the champions league 3rd qual. round.

I thought this to be good chance to cheat a bit, and with load/save system try to make a tactic that could with some luck bring a result against superb opponent. I've tried to modify player instructions of B1GD (less creative freedom, less runs with ball, more Long Shots- to get lucky) and i've also tried some other popular tatics downloads from here.

So far i've had no luck at all. Rome keeps on destroying my team with scorelines varying from 1-4 -> to much worse. I have absolutely no possession, no chances against their strikers, and especially crosses from wide are disasterous usually resulting goal for Rome.

I think my team could do mid- table finish in UK Championship or serie B, and as said before, I'm pretty much dominant in finland so the team ain't totally rubbish.


So, any ideas how to play/how to create heavily defensive counter-attack tactic to frustrate opponents and perhaps get lucky? Or something else that might work. Now everything i've tried have been disasterous. (like 0-7score and shots 2-25)

www2

I think that you should post this in the B1GD thread, but what I found out is that the 2008 favours the attacking football very much.

englandmanager

you could always try praying

other than that the quality range would mean no tactic would save you from defeat

it would be like brazil losing to qatar

Smikis

wait for patch to fix game. thats my idea.. chelse scoring 90~ goals and only getting 6 in theirs net.. whole season.. is kinda insane.. those 6 were season start too .. around same for manchester untd

those 2 teams seem to dominate prm..and there is hardly anything any team i played can do... best i got 1 0 loose to chelse.. others go 3-0 4-0 and so on , even with those WIN OMFG IMBA UNBEATABLE tactis you can download from here.. you still make around 2-3 goal attempts they make over 20..

KeljuK

It's not rare thing to happen in real world that championship team puts up a decent game against Liverpool etc. in Cup games.

Or some small country causes loads of trouble to major national team in European or south american World Cup quals.

In Fm2006 (and older versions) I've managed to create some tactics that have atleast some hope against major teams. Currently haven't found any way to do that. So, the problem isn't that I should win. I just want to be able to try something, 0-7 etc. are way too much.

FunnyBunny

I drew at ma utd and won at home vs Man utd with
Standard, Belgian team. Just made a solid defence with some deadly pace up front and strong headers in the middle and defence, good for dangerous piece settings.

FunnyBunny

set piecings ofc :p

Gandelf The White

The key to beating top teams is a combination of both keeping your eyes on their formation and completely locking down their midfield! COMPLETELY Get you full backs to specifically mark the wingers. and your central midfielders to mark the oppositions cm's very tightly. Sometimes its even useful to tell your winger to mark the full backs (though only if they are an attacking threat.)

The only annoyin thing about this is that the computer will continually change formation in an eye-blink and the results are instant. Its absolutely imperative that you keep an eys on this. Also, if you are getting completely domianted, try using counter attacking. One thing is for certain though, don't simply set your team up to defend. You'll only lose by more. You have to try and take the game to them. Well at least try to play your normal game anyway. All that said, if you really want to beat these teams you'll have to be pausing the game every couple seconds and adjusting your settings

KeljuK

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Ok, went back to basics, and set the whole Roman midfield to "closign down- whole pitch" with my midfielders.

That resultet more chances to me(playing more attackin football), and less chances for Rome.

3 games, and Scores were 1-3, 3-4 and 0-5.

What was still a problem, my defenders are truly unable to cope with crosses, and Corners.

In 3-4 result Rome scored 1 from long shot, 2 from corners and 1 close range. I did 1 "normal"+ 2 from corners.

It seems, as i've noticed before against more even opponents, that scoring (and conceding)from corners and long range shots(and long range free kicks of course) is far too easy.

Gandelf The White

I think you misunderstood me slightly. I was a big vague i guess.
I didn't mean set your whole midfield to closing down in that way. What i meant was choosing the players to mark in the individual playing instructions. Ok let me go step by step.

One
Look at opposition team. Locate the CMs with the best passing and creativity stats. Then find your own MC with the best tackling and marking ratings (preferably one who can also play as a DM), go under his personal marking instructions and tell him to mark that opposition player tightly (tick the "tight marking box").
As the game plays out you might find that the other CM is having the game of his life and making alot of passes. If this is the case give your other CM the same instructions on him - mark him tightly
(Usually i don't do this with both CM's from the off because i want at least one of them to try and create whilst the other is busy with the marking, but sometimes it's unavoidable i guess).
NOTE: BOTH MIDFIELDERS SHOULD HAVE A NORMAL MENTALITY. THE ONE WHO IS TO CARRY OUT THE INITIAL MARKING SHOULD BE A FEW TICKS LESS

TWO - Fullbacks
Do the same for both your fullbacks, telling them to mark the opposition winger. This time do not set it to tight marking however. Set their forward runs to "none" and their mentality to "Ultra Defensive".
The mentality of your whole defence should be the same.
It may also be helpful to show the wingers onto their weaker foot in oppositions instructions. though only if they are truly weak on that particular side. Theres no point otherwise. You could do the same to their CM (in fact, it is more important that you do)

Three - Team Instructions
The closing down settings of your team should be "mixed" or a few ticks above. Never get the whole team closing down too much as they will only be dragged out of position.
Time wasting should also be "mixed" at the least (though not too high) and it might be heplful to set tackling to hard also (just make sure you change it to normal if they get carded!)

Four - Opposition Instructions
Its best to use this once the game has had time to pan-out (i.e. 25th min or so). If they have a striker making alot of passes and just causing havoc in general, tell your team to close him down always. NOTE: IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THESE OVERALL OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS ON MORE THAN TWO OR THREE PLAYERS.

Try this and see what happens, remember to keep an eye of the formations screen, and more importantly the STATS screen, as this will tell you what is going on in the game.