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Old 11-09-2007, 02:36 PM   FM08 MLS thread Post #1
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massive apologies if one already exists, i looked and searched for one and couldn't see it. i've started one for the craic but i'm struggling with some of the logistics, so i thought i'd start a help/discussion thread.
i've gone houston, signed mika aaritalo and its hit me with a salary cap so i've only got a small squad, drafted two players in who are ineligible, i understand its my own ignorance but can anyone tell me what the rule is with this? cheers.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:46 PM   FM08 MLS thread Post #2
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Glad to see a thread for this as MLS is one of my favourite leagues to manage in FM08.

Since you don't understand a lot of how it works I tracked down last year's MLS thread which has a lot of explanations as to how drafting, etc works. I'd recommend reading everything there as it will seriously help you out. To the best of my knowledge none of what's written there has changed, although there are a couple new things for this season:

* Inclusion of Toronto FC - Interestingly listed as a Canadian team playing in MLS. This means that all Americans (without a Canadian passport) are listed as either Senior or Youth internationals...making it an extra challenge I must say...considering the ratio of good American prospects to good Canadian prospects surely places the favour with the American sides. Haven't tried managing as them yet but I may yet give it a go.

* The Designated Player rule - this has been implemented but not quite in the same way it works in RL. For a start, the wages seem more reasonably controlled (in contrast to how much Beckham is earning for instance) and varies from team to team, and you cannot trade away your right to have a DP in your team as in RL. This is why New York Red Bulls in reality have two Designated Players (Claudio Reyna and Juan Pablo Angel) as they traded with Chivas USA, who got a player out of it in exchange for the slot.

The Designated Player has replaced the 'indispensable' option when offering a contract. The wage difference in 'important first team player' and 'designated player' has, from what I've seen, been quite hefty, at least it was at Houston Dynamo. I was able to offer as much as £30,000 a week to a player as my DP whereas the highest I could offer to an important first team member was only around £7,000.

*Remember* to be careful when you choose your DP. True, getting rid of a player is easy in MLS. Just waive them and you're done (I do notice that the 'bug' of a player never leaving your team if you waive him and several teams come in for him hasn't been fixed) but with careful choosing, you could get someone quite spectacular in your team (ala Beckham or Angel) who will raise the overall standard of your squad.

*Other things of note about the MLS*

* Something that seems to happen an awful lot in MLS is that when a player's contract expires he will either sit there for many months on a rolling contract, be traded away or be released. Managing outside of the MLS, this is excellent (if you're running the MLS in your game) as many excellent freebies come up. Landon Donovan was released on a free at the end of his LA contract in my game and I came close to getting him for my Aberdeen side only for Barcelona to swoop at the last minute.

What I have found is that when a player's contract expires and he isn't interested in signing a new one it is much easier to trade these players into your team. And once they arrive they're more amenable to signing a new contract. This method worked for me signing Eddie Johnson at least.

* Keeping your squad down to the right numbers is quite the challenge, especially since unless you manually do the maths (which I've tried and gotten wrong in the past) you don't always know how many SIs (senior internationals), YIs (youth internationals), players on senior contracts and players on developmental contracts you have until a couple weeks before the final squad lists need to be submitted. This means that you can go on a signing spree in the close season, have the absolutely perfect team put together, then you find out that you can't register half of them. You're then pretty much stuck with them as you can't 'offer player to clubs' in the MLS and chances are, the other clubs in MLS will be in a similar situation and won't want to take the young Colombian starlet you signed for $2m and now can't play.

I generally try to keep a 'reasonable' number of players around until the first two drafts (Superdraft and Supplemental) are over, then send out players on loan who aren't going to play but have a future, waive/trade those who don't, and most importantly try to get as many good young Americans (ideally those on Rising Star contracts) as I can in my team. This way you're less likely to have half a squad you can't register. Also keeping the numbers down means that when the waivers draft comes along you can quite often pick up some real gems for nothing, whereas if you've already filled your alloted number of senior players you can't sign anyone from the waivers draft who will be unwilling to sign a developmental contract. It's very much a system of cheques and balances in MLS, but it's very rewarding when you get it right.

* Finally I'd like to stress the importance of developmental contracts. If, once your squad is together pretty nicely and you have some leftover YI slots, I'd go looking at the unattached players in the player search and see who is willing to come to you on a developmental contract. This is another way of boosting your squad without going over your squad limits.

Whew! Long post, but I hope that helps you and anyone else who wants to try the MLS. Like I said it's one of my favourite leagues in FM because of how different it is, and can prove to be a nice change to the European big leagues.

Good luck!
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:55 PM   FM08 MLS thread Post #3
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im about to do this aswell, have gone with la not just because of beckham but because i know like 2 players.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:35 PM   FM08 MLS thread Post #4
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perfect timing.
im currently in the process of starting as a mls team, but just thinking of which one to choose.
also need a guide to the basic rules.
thanks alwo.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:56 PM   FM08 MLS thread Post #5
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I started as the galaxy a few months ago, Beckham is great in the middle, and donovan scores for fun. Defence is abit fragile though. Also managed to get clint mathis in a trade who is proving to be a great signing.
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I'm playing as TFC and am looking to bring in a new striker, and some midfield players. I'm not totally sure what is available from within the MLS, and would welcome suggestions. Also, has anybody signed any half decent players from Europe? I'm currently trolling around League 1 in England to pick up some more experienced players, but few want to move to Canada.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:39 PM   FM08 MLS thread Post #7
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Just finished 3 seasons with the Red Bulls, but could never work this out. What is a discovery player? I was never able to offer anyone this contract. Have even checked offical MLS web page.

I found it best to get rid of all the high earners and bring in good young players as the wage cap was the hardest part, Which went down every year. I dont know if this was my board being tight or the league rules as we started to dominate.

Find of the season Cicero £500k, second season from Fluminese.
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Originally posted by Mark Robbie:
Just finished 3 seasons with the Red Bulls, but could never work this out. What is a discovery player? I was never able to offer anyone this contract. Have even checked offical MLS web page.

I found it best to get rid of all the high earners and bring in good young players as the wage cap was the hardest part, Which went down every year. I dont know if this was my board being tight or the league rules as we started to dominate.

Find of the season Cicero £500k, second season from Fluminese.
The discovery rule isn't in effect in FM if I remember rightly. I don't even know what it is myself.

And...as far as I was aware, the wage cap is supposed to go UP periodically to reflect the fact that it does this in RL. This could be a bug.

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I'm playing as TFC and am looking to bring in a new striker, and some midfield players. I'm not totally sure what is available from within the MLS, and would welcome suggestions. Also, has anybody signed any half decent players from Europe? I'm currently trolling around League 1 in England to pick up some more experienced players, but few want to move to Canada.
There are a few decent strikers in MLS available. If you've ran other CONCACAF nations check out the Guatemalan national team for a guy called José Manuel Mendoza, who was immense in FM07. I'm not sure if he'll be in the game if you haven't loaded the players from Guatemala though.

At Toronto though you should have Jeff Cunningham, who is a good goalscorer. Danny Dichio is also the best striker in the squad if I remember rightly from the squad report.

From within the MLS however, Brian Ching is a solid goalscorer also, and you might be able to pick up Eddie Johnson if you offer the world to whichever side he's at. Jozy Altidore is another great prospect. You should also have a young Canadian guy in your reserves (don't recall his name) and he turns out to be pretty good.
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Originally posted by oldmanken:
I'm playing as TFC and am looking to bring in a new striker, and some midfield players. I'm not totally sure what is available from within the MLS, and would welcome suggestions. Also, has anybody signed any half decent players from Europe? I'm currently trolling around League 1 in England to pick up some more experienced players, but few want to move to Canada.
I got clint mathis in a trade at the start of the 1st seasons and he is working out very nicely for me.
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I got Clint Mathis but I have yet to get him scoring.

Beckerman and Atiba Harris are great players in thsi game. Both a winning tackles and scoring goals.
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