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09-16-2007, 03:52 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #21 | | Newb
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some first teamers with CAs in the high 150s and even one or two in the high 160s to 170s with good cover in most positions. Not world class I'm sure you'll agree but it's about countering the AIs tactic and maintaing an edge throughout the match.
| wow cool tactic. i will try it out some day. i just made an own tactic and pressed the sliders little random and now i am 14 games in row winning haha.
i wonder how u set up your corners? do u use target men and flick on or?
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09-16-2007, 06:02 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #22 | | Newb
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Never thought of doing that Millie. The only problem is that when you take over at a new club you may need to rejig your set-piece instructions to accomodate new players who are an aerial threat, e.g. you may find that your def mid is now a great target at the far post where as at your previous club it was your left winger. Anyway, the end result is a lot of tedious clicking but it's always worth it though.
Lobo - I haven't had the need to tweak anything in some time though I'm thinking of having another look at my players' creative freedom. If you are starting out using these tactics I would imagine the easiest way to go wrong is by reading the opponents' tactical changes incorrectly. If you are playing against a standard 4-4-2 and go a goal up you may see your opponent change to a flat counter-attacking 4-4-2 with no f-arrows. This is one of the 'counter-attacking variants' I mentioned earlier. Rather than dropping down one tactic from your set as you normally would drop down two instead to counter it. You end up playing a little deeper than you normally would which helps negate the other teams' counter-attacks, e.g. You start out at 14-20, go a goal up, you see the AI change to 4-4-2 Counter Attacking so you in turn drop to 12-18.
Another common mistake is simply misjudging your opponents' reputation, starting out with a tactic that is either too attacking or too defensive for the game in hand. This is where I find FMM invaluable, as you can make an informed guess now that you have a better idea of your opponent's reputation. Like I said earlier, reputations change, so if you are successful it will mean finding new 'base tactics' that work.
After Feyenoord's latest European adventure I have had to revise some of my rules regarding two-legged fixtures. I said before that away goals only kick in once the scores become level on aggregate.I now firmly believe that away goals kick in right from the start in the second leg - so if you are two goals down from the first leg choose your starting tactic as if you were two goals down and carry on from there.
kennec - I might post my set-piece instructions here in the future if I have the time. Most of it is common sense though. I have found that instructing your best long-range striker of the ball to lurk outside the area can be a real goal threat. Also, when defending corners I leave three pacey players up front, typically my wingers and my smaller striker. The AI alway leaves 4 players to mark, which means there are 4 less players threatening your goal from the corner being taken.
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09-16-2007, 06:44 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #23 | | Registered User
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Googen, I'm impressed, I will take in all of your advice and do exactly what you say, with my Gateshead team, I'll tell you how well I did at the end of the season.
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09-16-2007, 07:21 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #24 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by EA_mon_hello2:
Googen, I'm impressed, I will take in all of your advice and do exactly what you say, with my Gateshead team, I'll tell you how well I do at the end of the season.
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09-16-2007, 07:27 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #25 | | Registered User
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Googen you say the indicators to look out for, for a good base is pass percentage, shots on target, and tackles won. Could you put these into priority order?
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09-16-2007, 09:50 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #26 | | Registered User
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Im using these sets, in smaller version thou.. Dont needed that many...
Got around 2 away, 2 home that i basically use...
But the tactic rocks, im currently running on 53 unbeaten games with Juventus..
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09-16-2007, 10:07 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #27 | | Newb
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Shots on Target is the best indication that you've found your base tactics but even that isn't always reliable, against better teams their players will always be able to out-play you to a certain extent but you should be able to stay close to level with them in SoT over the course of the game. Since linking all my players closing down with the defensive line I have come to dominate posession in most games, usually around the 56% mark but then again my Feyenoord team is quite experienced by this stage.
Looking at the game in the 2d engine you should pay attention to your players passing in the final third of the pitch. They should be releasing the ball just before they're closed down and creating good attacking opportunities.
I'm a little ignorant of English lower league clubs but I take it that Gateshead aren't a big club. You may find that your base home tactic is something like 8-14 or maybe even 9-15. Your away base tactic will be 4 below your home tactic. With higher reputation clubs you seem to be able to get away with more attacking football, i.e. shorter passing, slow tempo posession game etc., which is as it should be I suppose. As your reputation increases you will be able to adopt more attacking tactics as your base tactics. The best aspect of 'rule of one' tactics is the 'pass and move' style of football that your players adopt. It's always great to win games playing good football.
The Czech division 1 was the lowest league that I tested these tactics out in and I found (like many people), that pairing a big target man with a pacey forward worked wonders. I had David Strihavka up front with Adam Varadi. Neither player had great finishing attributes but lower league defenders simply couldn't cope with the combined aerial prowess and pace. Try and find a similar combination if possible, it won me two league titles. These tactics really kick in with your second season once your team chemistry has improved and your players are used to the formations.
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09-16-2007, 10:19 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #28 | | Newb
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Originally posted by simsejensen:
Im using these sets, in smaller version thou.. Dont needed that many...
Got around 2 away, 2 home that i basically use...
But the tactic rocks, im currently running on 53 unbeaten games with Juventus..
| Yeah, with Juve you will probably be using the 14-20 range as your base tactic and the 13-19 range when you face the other big Seria A clubs like milan and inter but the advantage of having the full tactics set is that even at 4-0 up you can drop deeper and counter attack, constantly maintaining an edge over your opponent. I always drop a tactic as soon as I score, or two tactics if the AI goes to a counter attacking variation. This is vital in the knockout stages of the Champions League when you don't want to concede an away goal or are hoping to sneak a goal on the counter attack away from home. Obviously you probably have a better squad then me which means you can get away without a full set. I kind of need all my tactics when I go into Europe against the big clubs. In the eredivisie though I'm mainly using the 14-20 range at home now against other Dutch clubs, dropping to 13-19 when Ajax come calling.
The winning run feels great but it's a kick in the teeth when it comes to an end. Ajax crashed my 104 game unbeaten run... all because of a goal that was blatantly offside. Bloomin' linesmen |
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09-17-2007, 09:19 AM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #29 | | Registered User
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Ive been using these tactics for five games with Atletico and although they are a bitch too set up I must say the results so far are spectacualr including a 4-0 home win against Barca. Brilliant work for coming up with thses tactics Googen their brilliant  .........keen to hear what you have to say about set pieces regarding thses tactics as well
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09-17-2007, 12:43 PM
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Rule of One Tactic Sets - and how to implement them to perfection! Post #30 | | Newb
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Originally posted by simsejensen:
Im using these sets, in smaller version thou.. Dont needed that many...
Got around 2 away, 2 home that i basically use...
But the tactic rocks, im currently running on 53 unbeaten games with Juventus..
| 53!!! nice whut year are u in?
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