retired_Deja-Fit

no training department experts

JohnSWA

1) I have them on the highest notch of medium. When I wrote about the player personalities, how hard players with the right attitude/attribute would/could train. I didn`t mean that you should put him on very intensive schedules. It is more that he will train harder/give everything with the workload you have gim him. Whilst players who aren`t able/interested to do that might not do that.

2) If you raise the fitness training. Offcourse they will rise during the pre season. But I believe that the acchieved level for physical stats will decline one/two months after you have set the physical training back to normal. If we found a level(that is lower) to maintain the acchieved rise of physical attributes it would make sense to make pre-season schedules. So far I haven`t found that.

3) Physical/skills are just as important. A youth player wich doesn`t have the required physical when maturing will never be able to play proffesional football at the higher levels. The days of Carlos Valderrama are gone. Endurance is a must.

JohnSWA

If you look at traing, and attributes. You can monitor players changes in attributes for the last 12 months. You will find increases there more often than each 12th month. Forget about the green arrows besides the attributes on the profile screen. They are just for the last few weeks.

retired_pamjoseph

But in this way you can't know what amount have your players raise or drop in each attribute :/ How can I know if my 19 years old striker has improved 2 points of composure in last 12 months or he has only improved 1 point? Is it possible?

JohnSWA

yes it is. To go a players profile. From the menu on the left of the screen, choose training. This will give you two more options. The overview and attributes. Choose attributes. At the right top corner you can choose to watch his improvement by training group(shows every attribute affected by that training group) or simply click on the attribute you want to look at.

retired_pamjoseph

Arrrrrrrgggg thanks, I'm feeling quite naive now ¬¬u. In fact I looked at it quite in fm2007, but usually to see how injuries affect my players, not linking it with training. Now I'm at work and was thinking abouth global training screen, not individual player attributes.

Thanks for helping me to remember ^^

JohnSWA

Developing players that has not reached their potential: How intensive you set the different training categories compared to eachother, is how much the player will improve proportonaly in the different categories. If you set the intensivity for all training categories at the same. The player will develope almost the same amount for all training categories.

If for example you raise the intensivity for shooting category and decrease the intensivity for defending category. The player will improve much more with shooting. Not improve that much/if at all in the training category. The rest of the training categories will improve proportonaly.

Developing players that are close to/have reached their potential If you set intensivity for all training schedules alike this will shape the player over time. Example: If a player has high value with set pieces and low values for defending. Over time he will decrease his value with the set-pieces attributes. Also he will improve his defending attributes.

If you want to keep the player as he is. You should increase the intensivity for set-pieces, and decrease the intensivity for defending

Wich attributes that improves within each training category is dependant of the players personality and the coaches attributes. How exactly this works, I don`t have the overall picture of this. The only way to find out is by doing a Lyssien. An huge experiment that maybe could produce some guidelines.

JohnSWA

retired_bertiebott5000

Used preseason for the first time this season. And it helped me getting my players fit much faster.

I had Strength/Aerobics on high and the rest on medium (besides GK).

Looks like they are faster fit for matches, and therefor more ready for your seasonal trainings.

The rest is like a big dark spot as well. I just fill it in according to their position / my tactics. Having my training workload on just before it turns heavy and lower it slightly during the season when i see my players get some fitness problems.

retired_management team

My experience is that the intensive physical training in preseason helps a lot. Physical skills improve a lot and, then during the season you just train physical training just enough to maintain the level of fitness.

The effect was great on youth players. My 18 year-old striker had pace - 9, jumping - 9 at the end of season one. in august he had pace - 11, jumping - 13. And the best thing was that the skill attributes improve substantially early in the season, so you do not need to worry about them so much.

About work load: as I get a nervous breakdown when I see a red arrow next to an attribute, I like to keep my schedules work loads on the highest notch of medium. I would give a player a rest every time I see he is tired though. It works ok, even though at some point of the season three or four key players are "in need of a rest" and I start the rotation to give them a break. The good thing is that usually there are plenty of cup games this time of the season .