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Old 09-03-2007, 02:42 PM   bRAzIL's 4-3-3 Tactic, Solid home & Away with no tweaking Post #1
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bRAzIL’s 4-3-3

After having some success with West Ham and recently NEC in Holland, I thought I’d post my tactic as there have been a few requests for ideas that make a 4-3-3 successful. I’m not claiming mine is going to work for all teams but I can only say that it has been a good solid tactic for me.


First of all here are a few hints/tips I try and adhere to, make of them what you will. Some of these are not my own so I hope others don’t mind me ‘stealing’ their thunder.

[b]Hints & Tips[B]

Mental stats rise with age and not training.

Forward runs are made when the player is not in possession of the ball.

Increasing tempo will increase the number of shots on target but decrease the quality of those shots.
And conversely, decreasing tempo will makes the quality of shots better but there will be less of them.

It takes 8months for a player to truly settle in, especially those from abroad.

Individual instructions override team ones (and Paul C has confirmed this), but changing the team one still makes your team play slightly deeper or higher up depending imo.

Don’t use attacking & counter attack at the same time, it’s conflicting and pointless.

Never back off from a fast striker, close him down as soon as.

When creating a new tactic, if possible, do it when your team’s morale is v.good/superb, this way you know morale is not affecting it negatively.

4-3-3

Line up

The general idea is to go with 4 across the back, one ‘anchorman’ in midfield, a playmaker type alongside a hardworking ‘all-rounder’ in midfield, two wide forwards/wingers, and one Targetman who can head &hold up the ball.

Team instructions are fairly basic. I find I have the Time wasting set to the perfect notch.

Team Instructions


GK

The only thing to mention here is that the GK is instructed to distribute to the DL.

DR/DL

Both DR and DL have the same instructions. I found my DL had 8-9 assists per season due to him receiving the ball from then GK and directing long diagonal balls to my Targetman.

DC

I like my DC to man mark and have a defensive mentality; I want them to be solid.

DMC

He is an important player, I find whoever plays here usually gets a good average rating, the do not do much apart from get back and help out in defence, the barrow is important and the number of times my DMC has saved my bacon against big teams!

MC (Right)

Hardworking player here, good teamwork, passing, stamina.

MC (Left)

I played Tevez here and he was amazing, gets forward and latches on to any flick ons from my Targetman, will score a lot of goals if good at long shots especially. Tevez scores some superb long range curlers! Can afford to gamble and get into the box as he has a DMC and a hardworking MC to help out in defence. This is the teams playmaker so to speak.

AML/ST

Here I have played winger and strikers and had success, they are there to close down the opponents and win the second balls from the Targetman, then the idea is that they dribble to the byline and whip in balls for my Targetman and AMC arriving late in the box, always get plenty of assists for me.

AMR/ST

As above really, set run with ball often if your player is a dribbler

Targetman

Here is the key player, wins headers, flick-ons, the link between midfield and attack, gets bags of goals and creates lots of chances, if he plays well you win – end of!

End of First Season

I only just missed out on winning the Prem, but I did no tweaking home or away for this tactic, I set assistant manager to handle team talks (Sammy Lee is god at this). I think I could have won it easily with a few tweaks however, especially later on in games when the opponents switch to 4-2-2, all though I think this tactic counters that pretty well.

Second Season Table so far

Going well in my second season so seams to be a durable tactic, time will tell I suppose.

I have uploaded the tactic if anyone wishes to try, any feedback welcome.

Download here

I also tied this out for half a season with NEC and easily am escaping relegation.

Result with NEC

[B]Summary[B]

I based my tactic initially on Bolton’s style of play from last year, with the team set up around the Targetman and closing down high up the pitch. I’d be interested to see if other people have any success with this, especially a team like Chelsea with Drogba as the Targetman and Lampard running on. I may try this out when I get round to it.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:46 PM   bRAzIL's 4-3-3 Tactic, Solid home & Away with no tweaking Post #2
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especially later on in games when the opponents switch to 4-2-2
I mean 4-2-4!

Sorry about the 'bold' bits. I'd edit it if I could...

*looks at Cleon*
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i tried to make it a couple of days ago and nver got round to trying it gonna give it a go especially if it is built around the super whites last season because i like that style of play
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i like the idea. the back arrow on the DMC i think a bit redundent. using the MC going to AMC is helpful, although they usually do that anyway with fw runs. the arrows on the wide men going into the box instead of straight up looks good, i'll try that myself and see how it goes.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:23 PM   bRAzIL's 4-3-3 Tactic, Solid home & Away with no tweaking Post #5
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i like the idea. the back arrow on the DMC i think a bit redundent. using the MC going to AMC is helpful, although they usually do that anyway with fw runs. the arrows on the wide men going into the box instead of straight up looks good, i'll try that myself and see how it goes.
Well the idea for the barrow on the DMC was that I played Micah Richards who sat there and played it simple, but when the team was up against it (especially in the last 10mins) the number of clearing headers he made in our own box was brilliant.

So going forward he's a midfielder and going back he becomes a make shift center half. As the DC are man marking strikers, he kind of picks up anyone else running into the box.

The kind of chances the opponents create are only half chances really and when they do score it's usually from mistake which is frustrating.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:39 PM   bRAzIL's 4-3-3 Tactic, Solid home & Away with no tweaking Post #6
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Brazil, really want to try this tactic out but cannot find where to click to d/load after visiting link?.

Can you upload it elsewhere or send me it via e-mail address in public profile?.

Cheers!. :thup:
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:48 PM   bRAzIL's 4-3-3 Tactic, Solid home & Away with no tweaking Post #7
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Managed to find the d/load, but it says unknown file?.
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^^add .tac to end of file name and it works then
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:19 PM   bRAzIL's 4-3-3 Tactic, Solid home & Away with no tweaking Post #9
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Originally posted by isuckatfm:
^^add .tac to end of file name and it works then
Cheers!. :thup:

I think i should change MY name to isuckwithpc's
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The jury is still out for me on this one, more to do with the fact that i tried it with an existing save and i dont have a quality TM.

I have won 4 and lost two which is very good, the only thing i cant see working is Tevez in the role you describe?.

He has been nothing short of shocking for me and i have had better performances from Lee Bowyer in this position?.

I'm going to have to start yet another new game to give this tactic a fair go.

I intend to bring in both Iversen and E Johnson for the TM role(one can be backup for t'other).

I may well bring in VDV in place of Tevez, or i may even try Ashton there?.

I may well need to sell Ashton if he does'nt fit the part?, which is the one thing i aint looking forward too, as i believe Ashton is way underated on this game as a TM.

New game tomorrow and i'll post some results!. :thup:
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