retired_janellewood86

I'll try and be diplomatic here.

Please, MrMajic, re-read the thread. It outlines an approach which does not require hours and hours of setting up different tactics for every different team. It outlines how to create a "system" of tactics which allow you to attack when neccessary, defend when neccessary and allow the user to swtich as the game dictates.

If you find one tactic which works, then great - but the point of this thread and this approach is that you adapt. It doesn't take forever and will give you far more stability in the long run.

So, I can save you a hell of a lot of time - download wwfan's sets and pay attention to the game and switch tactics when neccessary. It's an approach which will cause you far less stress than constantly tweaking and will probably stop all those "late comebacks", "superkeepers", and the dreaded "4-2-4".

arteta is god: it can look like the def. line does nothing, but personally I've found it very useful. A high def. line puts pressure on the opposition by "squeezing" the play, and a low one keeps the strikers from coming over the top.

Of course, it only comes into play when you lose the ball, so if you've got your entire team bombing forward and the opposition lauch a quick counter, there are bound to be holes. Personally, I keep my back four on "1" mentality and this seems to hold them back, though as you say barrows are very useful.

I agree, though, the defensive line should at least partially affect how the defence plays when they have the ball, though not as much as it did in '06.

retired_Myoplex

wwfan, i thought i would start my comment off with a catchy opening sentence that, unfortunately, has a swear word in it, here goes:

This Is The ****!

I have played 2 games:
Arsenal (friendly at home) 1-0
QPR (friendly, away, ass man played it) 5-0
Kayserispor (Euro Vase, away) 1-0

Now this doesn't seem much but i haven't really used the right tactics (I used counter for all three) and by the way i tweaked all the tactics i feel you commit too many players forward for FK's and corners, so i put a few back and a few other things but all is good

retired_warrenj

Nice thread. Keep up with the good work.

retired_ssteinfeld

nice

retired_stephking

wwfan, you are a legend.

barefootboo

Just have to say this is great stuff and it should help strugglers ALOT! I just implemented your counter tactics into my own diamond formation for the last match of the season were I needed a win, and if it weren't for my strikers who have been catastrophic lately I would have won the league.

retired_liv1

WWfan,

One question i have is that how do you adapt your 442 formations into other formations such as 4-1-3-2, 4-1-2-2-1 (4-5-1), 4-3-1-2 and the 4-2-3-1 formations?

What positions would you recommend moving from x to x so that editing the 442 to suit?

Actually that was two questions but hey. Id just like to let you kow that i do enjoy your threads and that i am currently testing your new theorys/plays at this moment in time. Im having a bit of success and am getting used to applying when and where, im tending to use the counter for sides better than me which is not many and the control at home and when im against a weaker side.

retired_rayrhi

wwfan:

In your list of why teams are successful, you missed out one MAJOR element. The players! Good tactical management means nothing without good players. If my nan managed Chelsea, they would still beat Alex Ferguson's Sunday league team. I am not sure how all of this then is relevant since you do not mention player ability. Are you stating that one size fits all?...

retired_janellewood86

I would assume that "good transfer policy" kind of implies that players are needed for success. As this is a tactical guide, not a good player guide, the emphasis is bound to be on tactics.

Of course you won't win the league with terrible players. Surely a little common sense would prevail here, eh?

retired_cristenr7

I had a bit of a shaky start to my West Ham game so I started using this set of tactics about half way through the season and I've been in free fall ever since. I've won 3 out of 10 losing the other 7.

What's really annoying me is I'm picking the correct tactic and making the right changes during the game (I think) but still losing.

I've had a better possession and pass completion in all 10 games but just leak soft goals all the time. The three games I've won were in the Uefa cup so my league form has been dreadful. In this run I've scored 10 goals (5 in last 8 games) and conceded 14 (7 in 2 games).

I do like these tactics despite the poor run and I will be sticking with them to the end of the season and into next season when I can hopefully get some decent players although Tevez, Ashton, Leon, Guardado, De Jong, Vanden Borre and Ferdinand should really be coping better than they are.

Ok thats me done. Rant over. I apologize if it sounds as if I'm having a go, I'm not it's just frustrating the hell out of me at the moment.

I was wondering one thing though wwfan. Do you use oppo instructions. I used them before and tried it against spurs to sort out Keane and Defoe. The result - they got 2 goals each.