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Old 10-30-2007, 06:45 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #41
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Sucks I can't edit my posts.

I also wanted to add, your instruction for anchorman is great Korzy. I use mine similar too, but I changed it to direct like you and he seems to create scoring opportunities more My DMF is Nengomashe, who has amazing hardworking attributes especially for championship, but also he's amazing passer.

Just to add a random question: how do you guys feel about setting hardworking DMF as playmaker? He also has "dictates tempo" on his prefered moves, I haven't tried him as playmaker yet because he's got heavy duties on defence ( barrow from DMF --> DC position, because I just am underdog still ). Would it be disasterous? Though he sees ball plenty already because my defenders and fullbacks play it through him.

Also if opponent has an exceptional striker or midfielder, I assign him to manmark him and hard tackle. Everything I can to make their game miserable and wish they weren't on field and has worked good. Sure it might open more space to their other players, but these amazing players can cause a lot more trouble for me unless I try to leash them.



Great topic, I have learned a lot here about tactics. Most importantly this has made me from absolute clueless to someone who has more clue what whatever slider does, instead of keeping guessing and now I've been comfortable making my own formations. Thank you and keep it up!
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:02 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #42
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Credits to Rashid1, as he made me understand how to understand the game better.

I feel my defence struggles just a bit when opposition changes formation ( adding f-arrows or taking them off at most ) as suddenly they score on counter attack out of nowhere.
should I add man-marking to my DCs if they play w/o f-arrows on wings? so the DCs will focus on taking the opposition FCs down? another thing: would it be beneficial to take 2 notches of close-down slider from FBs when oppo wingers given long f-arrows?
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:22 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #43
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hi mate.. i'm new to FM and football...i need some of ur advice...

i'm playing 4-1-2-2-1 (or maybe called 433 formation? mourinho used)

my both CMs to attack (i have set mentality to 13) and DM to stay back.. how do i play one-touch football in the midfields?

ok now, my fullbacks have short passing (so tat they can pass to CM or DM to do the jobs) and deep cross often , FWR-mixed,RWB-mixed

and i followed ur (standard defenders) instructions for my CBs
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:43 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #44
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I now simply started man mark opposition RM and LM ALWAYS, no matter what, because against me opponent always looked most dangerous that way. My centre is covered with DMF and good centrebacks, but defending wingplay was always shaky.

Probably stated the obvious to myself, but it seems to limit their plays via flanks a lot. Haven't tried tight marking that way yet.

I'm also wondering, when should CD'd be on man mark and when on zonal? Which one provides better defensive results? I always use man mark with central defenders, unless opponent plays with 3 upfront.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:50 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #45
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opps.. its wrong formation. lol i have bad football knowledge... it's 4-1-2-1-2 (no wingers)

gk
dr-cb-cb-dl
dm
mc-mc
amc-amc
sc

sorry for my poor ennglish
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:45 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #46
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Great thread Rashidi.

I am having some succes with my Derby side, looking to reach the top four in my third season, many thanks to you.

But (when) are you going to continue the indvidual instructions??
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:39 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #47
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Quote:
Originally posted by rashidi1:
You'll have to try it out, it isn't the same settings as what I would like to do but its a team you're familiar with
Ok, what would you do Rashidi? Very interested to know....Lately I've changed the passing for the 2 MC's to mixed (2-3 notches away from short), mentality on normal(10) for both, one FWR on mixed, the other on often still. I see better attacking flow and more quality killer balls for the front three. Also during every match I tweak my tempo for about 15-20 min. spells from slow to highest normal. My width is always on the first notch of wide. I must say that I see my fullbacks join the build-up in midfield very nicely. I am not sure though if its their quality (I have Zambrotta/Zaccardo and Abidal/Silvinho) or my instructions???!!!
Anyway, I think I've seen you post 4-3-3 formations before, but I guess you are on a differrent formation at differrent level right now. I also like to use 4-1-2-1-2 (Back 4+DM+2MC+AMC+2FC) with the two forwards sarrowed outward
Please Rashidi, if you could share some of your ideas about 433 I would be very thankful
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:56 PM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #48
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Originally posted by rune_star:
hmm, it just appears that with normal mentality (tried it!) and FWR they can't support the attack as much as I want them to. Bear in mind that in 9/10 matches, Barca dominate so much that buildup play takes place on last third of opp. half which means just outside the penalty area... Even though FWR is turned on. In fact, I enjoy more solid buildup play with NO FWR for the attacking MC, as he holds his position much better as a 'playstation' for the front three AND as a longshot threat outside the area...
rune-star, that's what I want my Barca to do! Dominate possession in the middle/attacking thirds and don't let the opposition play any attacks. Best form of defense is offense :cool:
Having said that, i'm thinking maybe I need higher CD for all my midfielders....hmmmm
Try seting up the 2MC's as one link-up player (I have Xavi/Iniesta/Toure to use in that role) and one supporting midfielder that arrives late in the box (using Iniesta/Deco like that). My wide attackers (Ronni, Messi) have NO CROSS instructions and RWB on often. So when either one of them dribbles around the fullback they just lay the ball off to either MC. So far i've see this in almost every game and i've scored many goals. In fact, Ronni, Messi, Iniesta, Deco and Xavi have simmilar goals scored.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:56 AM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #49
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Yonko

I guess we're playing it pretty much the same way. My wingers haven't got crossing on either, trying to replicate til IRL Barca. As for the midfielders, thats pretty much what I'm doing. One link-up, one supporting. Works a treat! Without FWR for either of the mid-three... Plus my sole-striker is on pretty low mentality to come deep every once... Almost swaps position with the 'looney' midfielder...
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:09 AM   Fundamental Football Manager (FFM) - Basics of Tactic Making Post #50
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My tactic is getting good shape thanks for some defensive tips on this topic. I'm very happy with the results! I'm doing great in championship with MK Dons at the moment, and I really have pretty poor squad even on championship standards.

Just drew with chelsea AWAY on FA Cup 4th round, and they were lucky to get draw. My own fault I lost my 4-1 lead, I just sorta forgot change my marking instructions when they went 4-2-4

Result:



GUTTED, and in next screen you see it was no fluke:



Player stats. I'm very happy with my tall target man, he dominates the air as I set him receive everything on head and some defences are unable to cope with him. Look at the headers and shots on goal:




It's just very narrow diamond with counter attacking, hard working midfield and a lot weight on my target men back.
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