retired_pamjoseph

if i had read well, those advices are for premier teams. What about conference north/south? Specially about passing, i use to set it to 13, with 13 tempo, 13 width and 13 dl. Is it right?

How does a narrow field, or a short one to these tactics?

Thank you!

retired_kellyk

It should be relevant to all teams..the only difference would be for conference teams is not to play too short for passing, and to limit TTB to only those players who have good decision. Hmm I havent' ever played a narrow midfield with a conference side, never seen the need to frankly.

Most pitches are congested and short, so I typically either play normal or wide.

retired_anne11581

sorry guys, but whats ttb and fwr? Im new to the game and desperately trying to tweak an arsenal team thats struggling horrendously.

I made it an attacking formation and tweaked some individual settings, and im starting to get a few results.

retired_kellyk

TTB - Try through ball
FWR - Forward Runs

retired_flower115

No offense rashidi1, but what exactly qualifies you to suggest that your advice on these boards are factually accurate?

A lot of your advice is sound in theory and that is exactly what it is 'your theory'
I am not having a go and I apologize to you for posting in this thread.

You obviously spend a lot of time playing the game and I'm sure you have your own ideas of how the game engine works, but I think a lot of what you say is so obvious. It amazes me that so many people on these boards do not know many things you say, most are actually in the games instruction booklet!

*waits to be slaughtered!*

retired_maverick8

What is the point in this? Leave this out of this informative thread - take this elsewhere or email Rashidi1 direct. Don't got clogging up his thread with your nonsense.

(sorry for reacting Rashidi, I suppose I am giving him the attention he wants)

retired_kellyk

Noone should be slaughtering you LOL..actually what you say is true...a lot of what I say is ACTUALLY in the manual, sometimes people forget.

Perhaps its that putting together which a lot of people lack. What I suggest isn't any theory, its very simple actually. Decide who defends, who attacks, who does both and off you go.

Its no theory, just old fashioned common sense. I have been considering shutting up more..its not good really offering up so much advice and then having people with cracks having an easy crack at the game so to speak.

retired_lmccray

Hey Rashidi your tactical help is very usefull and I read your advices with interest. I've been playing this game since the old days and I've never had any problems with tactics. However, I'm always interested in how others (such as yourself and Cleon) deal with the tactical side of the game.The similarities are amazing
Anyway....I'm big Barca fan since the early 90's and I always play with them or I mostly try to copy their real-life tactics into the game with other big clubs. But playing 4-3-3 is very challenging as it gives you alot of options and variations. I want to keep possession and have good balance, so I've created three set-ups of possession based 4-3-3 - normal,defensive and attacking. I was wondering if you have any interest in trying to share/discuss any set-ups you can create for the 4-3-3 formation. My own tactics work great but as I said I'm always interested in what others do as we can all improve!Plus I think there are plenty of people who I suspect use the 4-3-3 also.
Cheers!

retired_mgavlick

Noone should be slaughtering you LOL..actually what you say is true...a lot of what I say is ACTUALLY in the manual, sometimes people forget.

Perhaps its that putting together which a lot of people lack. What I suggest isn't any theory, its very simple actually. Decide who defends, who attacks, who does both and off you go.

Its no theory, just old fashioned common sense. I have been considering shutting up more..its not good really offering up so much advice and then having people with cracks having an easy crack at the game so to speak. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I hopoe you don't mind me pre-posting a bit of TT&F '08 to answer this, Rash.

The most common complaint in the forums for FM07 was the ambiguity of the sliders. People complained that they didn't know how they worked, what they did, and the plethora of competing theories didn't help. Indeed, they argued that the competing theories 'proved' that the game was flawed. Some even argued that we shouldn't write theory unless we 'knew' we were right; that is was dangerous to do otherwise. However, does this equate to reality? Yes, there is a UEFA Pro-License for managers, but do managers really follow the same practices. Can anyone really argue that Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Benitez and Eriksson share the same management style? All are successful, but all undoubtedly put into practice different theoretical approaches to the art of management.

Not knowing exactly what the sliders do allows us to approach FM in a similar manner. We have to use our intuitive experience to construct a style of play and management we are happy with. Some tactical theorists try to use a one-size fits all solution and tweak in-match, others have a home and away package, TT&F employs a five-pack and the extreme tacticians design 14 sets. All work to an extent; all are more or less useful. As in the real world of management, those who wish to manage must choose a system to follow, cherry-pick between systems, come up with one themselves, or combine all three to create a personal best practice. The frameworks and theorems we write about are no more than a series of more or less useful guidelines that the reader can choose to learn from/use/reject depending on how they 'feel' about them. It is style over and above science.


Quite simply, management is about the application of theory. The whole point of threads such as Rash's is that they make explicit the thoughts of somebody who is playing the game and doing well at it. Even if a lot of it is highlighting the relevant sections of the manual, it is a useful exercise, and Rash's threads are a whole lot more than that anyway. You can choose to use it, see if it works, stick with it or discard it to your heart's content, but critiquing the 'accuracy' doesn't actually mean anything.

Personally, I think it is great someone else is going down the theory route in such a manner. I foresee a FFM v TT&F showdown.

retired_mugdozer

Thank you for taking the time to post this. As you know I'm a newbie to FM and for the most part football in general. URL=http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/521102691/m/2452098453]My "please help a neophyte"thread[/URL]

As the poster a few back said, most of this might well be in the manual, but as someone who printed out the manual and a ton of other threads, it's one thing to read it in a manual filled with a ton of information, and though well written overall, as a total newbie it's a lot to digest, and threads like these are extremely helpful in allowing me to wrap my North American brain around a specific issue or facet of the game. Also, getting his reasoning (and opposing reasoning as well) in the same place as his theory is also helpful in trying to pick up the intricacies of the sport and the game.

I understand that in these types of games, there is no one right answer, but there is a lot of right theories, if that makes any sense!