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Old 04-18-2004, 12:37 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #1
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Hey everyone,

I was surfing the internet for a picture of a good brick wall and came apon this picture...


This is amazing work IMO for you guys who know a lot more then me, do you think it was done with photoshop? or do you think it is a specific house design program or something along those lines? I would love to be able to create pictures like the one shown above(I am really big into arcitecture) Any info would be great.

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Keith
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Old 04-18-2004, 01:29 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #2
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Hi A Squarecan,

That image was definitely modeled in some 3D program. I can't guess which one as I don't recognize the specific textures. I would think it most likely is one of the CAD/Architect 3D programs though it could have been modeled it one of the non-specialized programs, Maya, Strata, and the like.
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Old 04-18-2004, 01:38 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #3
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Something like this can be done with Photoshop (beginners excluded).

If it's done in a 3D program then it must have been a crappy one, because the lighting is very poor. Just look for example at the shadows, razor sharp.
Also the texture on the wall on the left shows reapeating patterns.

I think that most exprienced Photoshop users on a board like this can do better than that and I'm dead serious.

Personally I think it's done with a program like Sketchup, a program in which realism is less important.
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Old 04-18-2004, 01:56 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #4
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I'm pretty sure it's a 3d render.

The one thing that really gets me is the light being cast just underneath those 2nd story windows. A little sloppy on the modeling, and that's what happens. I don't know much about architecture and carpentry, but I imagine that the porch roof would be joined with the wall and no light would be cast just under the windows.

Even then, I can't imagine the porch roof overlapping the corner. Can't say that I've ever notice a porch roof built like that.

Then again, like I said, I don't know much about architecture and carpentry.

Also, I seriously doubt a PS user would put that cast light right there. I know I wouldn't.

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Hey, there is some light across that other 2nd story window. To me, that just screams 3d program (and sloppy modeling).
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Old 04-18-2004, 02:02 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #5
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John,

I excluded Sketch-up because it doesn't use textures of near this sophistication. It really is a sketching tool more adapted to architectural concepts. Great software, though I did't buy it after the demo timed out.

I can't imagine someone good enough to produce that image in PS doing so in such a mechanical manner when other programs earmarked for creating images like this are so much faster and produce results like the sample.

Also the lighting doesn't necessarily mean it was a poor program. You never know, it might have been the desire of the artist to have it look like that or that was the best they could do.

Stroker

While I don't doubt there might be a porch roof built like that somewhere (by an amateur), I've never seen one in 40 years of making a good deal of my living as a builder. That lighting on the second story doesn't approach real, even if the porch roof was cut away at the house's exterior. There's no light source unless it is hidden in that cutout.
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Old 04-18-2004, 02:27 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #6
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Welles, I'm pretty sure the funky lighting is coming from a light on the porch. If you look at the floor, you can see that it juts out a little bit. Then follow it up and there is a lamp.
I think the funky lighting on the 2nd story is coming from that light, and is passing through some bad modeling.
Can you see it?
That would explain the large light casting, but doesn't feel right for those little bars of light on the lonely window.

Ahh! Bleh! Yech!
Make it go away!

Thanks for confirming the porch roof thing.
I'm not a builder of any sort, but it did make my Stroker sense tingle a little bit.
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Old 04-18-2004, 02:31 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #7
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John,I excluded Sketch-up because it doesn't use textures of near this sophistication. It really is a sketching tool more adapted to architectural concepts.
Welles, believe it or not, but I own SketchUp so I know what the program is all about.
I use it to quickly model 3D objects for my other 3D program.
And if you think that this kind of house is not possible in Sketchup, well then you might want to look at this;

http://sketchup.com/gallery/free-for...&gcid=1&page=6

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John,
I can't imagine someone good enough to produce that image in PS doing so in such a mechanical manner when other programs earmarked for creating images like this are so much faster and produce results like the sample.
I don't agree with this either. I've seen several people trying to create 3D objects in Photoshop when the objects and lighting could have been created faster in a 3D program.
I also disagree that nobody can do this kind of work in Photoshop, even if it?s architecture. Guides and grids for example are a great tool for this and so are vectors.
I don?t want to sound pompous, but I know that I can make a better house that this one and more realistic, not because I?m that talented, no simply because I know what I?m capable of and what Photoshop is capable of. I was going through some old threads on this boards a while back and that has convinced me that you can also give a member like wbiss this kind of assignment.

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John,Also the lighting doesn't necessarily mean it was a poor program. You never know, it might have been the desire of the artist to have it look like that.
Somehow I have to agree on that one, but the reason I said it was because I haven?t seen any good 3d software in which the default lighting wasn?t set to soft shadows, but like you said, it might have been his intention.

But don't let us forget what the question was all about.
The question was: "Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop?"

I know it can be done in Photoshop, but that doesn't mean it's done in Photoshop, so the answeer to his question is; I don't know (yet).
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Old 04-18-2004, 02:43 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #8
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Stroker

Aha! I see what you are referring to as the light source and you're right. It's just so wrong architecturally that I didn't give it creedence.

John

I stand corrected about everything. The strength of your opinions is overwhelmig.
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Old 04-18-2004, 02:46 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #9
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wow guys,

Thanks for the quick responces. Kinda intresting to see everyone's opinions. The guy actually owns a company some work better then others but I agree the shadows are off. Considering my skill level I can't say anything about that though [shhh] %} . Keep the input coming [righton]

Keith
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Old 04-18-2004, 02:47 AM   Amazing work, but was it done with photoshop? Post #10
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Oops Welles, you just replied when I added (and corrected) the text "But don't let.... ....I don't know (yet)."

No serious, the question was is it done in Photoshop?

Who knows?
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