Tanya

Call to arms
Any clue as to why when I bring in an Illustrator 10 (OS 9) ai or eps format vector map in through Photohop 7, the 100% blacks become approx 70-80% black? I deleted all preferences in photoshop, but I can't for the life of me figure out why this is suddenly happening.

Tanya [confused]

Rantin Al

Hi Tanya, you called for an octopus?

Check your Photoshop colour settings and make sure that the 'Black Point Compensation' button is unchecked.

Under the Advanced Controls (same window) make sure that the Desaturate Monitor colours is unchecked as well.

Are you working in RGB or CMYK in Illustrator?

What other settings have you got in Color Management prefs regarding profiles?

Al.

Tanya

I've been soo involved with so many projects not to mention renovations in our new office and work...I completely forgot about this!

Pickled octopus is delish!

Thanks for the heads up.. I'll definitely check that tomorrow!

Tanya

Tanya

Al:
I envy you OS 10; I'll be using OS9 for some time to come in our office.

my map was made cmyk in Illustrator (10), black cmyk: 0 0 0 100

I went into Photoshop and unchecked the Black Point Compensation' button. My Black Point Compensation' button was unchecked.

When I reopened Photoshop (7) and opened the file through PS7, the cmyk: was 18 14 15 95.

Your question: What other settings have you got in Color Management prefs regarding profiles? Did you mean PS7, Al?
If so, here's a Snapz of my settings and assuming my jpeg of 424K from Snapz Pro 2 works.... let's see.

Tanya

Al:
I double posted about the compensation being unchecked. I also meant to say my Desaturate monitor was unchecked as well.

I wasn't able to post the Snapz of my color settings last time, so I'll try again.
Tanya

Bacardi

Hi Tanya,

I see that you have relative colorimetric checked...this means that the white point of the source profile is brought to the destination profile, and that all other values are adapted so that the relative "distances" between the hues are kept, and that all colours that fall outside the gamut are clipped. Perhaps this has some influence on your problem?

As for the BlackPoint compensation, I tend to partially disagree with Al (how dare I!! grin). Leave it unchecked when you move from one RGB space to another (for example sRGB to Adobe RGB) but leave it on when you move between CMYK profiles, or go from RGB to CMYK as K is usually not set at full black.
What it does is compare blackpoints of both source and destination, and set the black in the destination accordingly so that it won't become dark grey. Yet, it does have its limitations, as said above.

Rantin Al

Tanya, the only way I could get anything near your problem is in the Illustrator file setting.

Check: File > Document Mode > CMYK. (Not RGB)

I think that you have the Illustrator file set as RGB and the problem is with the RGB > CMYK conversion. (I got 63,52,51,95 on one profile)

You can still have the colour sliders showing CMYK but the document can be in RGB.

I tried just about every profile combination in both Illustrator and Photoshop and always got 100% K when opened in Photoshop.
Even tried it under OS 9 and got the same result. (.ai, .pdf, .eps)



Erik, feel free to disagree, everyone else does!

Al.

Bacardi

Unfortunately, I don't have Illustrator, but that should react like Photoshop itself, shouldn't it?

Anyways: hope this gets solved, and that I am wrong. That way I can learn something new, which is always a pleasure.
[righton]

Rantin Al

Dam' masochist.

Al.

Bacardi

Hit me, hit me...%}

Or go with me to chase some orcs... [slick]

BTW:I posted some info on free" HDRI" poser files in the Poser thread. I suppose Bryce can open Poser files, can't it?