Tanya

Erik/Al: I checked the Illustrator file; it's cmyk and when opened up in Photoshop 7, I bring it in as cmyk and the file mode shows cmyk, so I believe we're still talking apples and not apples and oranges. I've checked and unchecked the BlackPoint compensation when opening the file - no difference. I still keep getting the black coming in as dark grey. grrrr

SSSssooooo.. I went to the next step about: relative colorimetric. (something I know nothing about but about to learn I think)

If I understand correctly, I need to change the relative colorimetric to..and this is where I'm not sure of choices; it gives me 3 others: Perceptual, saturation and absolute colorimetric. I'm thinking you meant for me to choose absolute, so I did. Now I have a different grey but still grey }P Any other ideas?.. Al. I think someone owes someone a Guiness - can I have one too?? [excited] I think I'll keep trying the two other choices.
Tanya

Rantin Al

Ooookay! I see this is going to be another epic adventure.
Just when I had a big durty Uruk-Hai in the sights of my Elvish double barrel plazma bazooka.

Points to check. (In Illustrator)

1. Which colour palette are you using? Default CMYK, Pantone, Mac Standard?
Look under Window > Swatch Libraries > da-dum de-dum.
Please make sure you do not have the Windows Standard selected as this gives RGB (0,0,0) = CMYK (62.75, 52.16, 50.98, 100) and will possibly screw up depending on your colour management settings.

You want only a 0.0.0.100 for the Black.

2. In Photoshop.
What have you got under:
View > Proof Set-up > ?
Do you have View > Proof Colours active?
What are the profile mismatch settings?

Now, back onto the trail of them Yrchs. (Elvish spelling) :B [bustagut]

Cheers Al.

Tanya

AL:
Well.. I've had a chance today to check a few things and put them together to answer your questions. I think I did. I know I don't have the right settings somehow, but I just don't know at the moment - how to.

Thanks so much for your continuing help.

Tanya

Tanya

oooops I added the wrong pic.. here's the one I made to answer!

My Illustrator appears to have the right colors however inthe trip into Photoshop - that's where the black suffers.

aaaiee this isn't so easy mingling the two.

Tanya

Tanya

Thanks again, Al...
My answer to Proof setup is Working CMYK, I've now made Proof colours active, however I don't know how to answer or where to get "profile mismatch settings"

Tanya

Rantin Al

Sorry Tanya, I should have said: (Photoshop)

Photoshop > Colour Settings > Colour Management Policies.

Make sure that Preserve Embedded Profiles is the option for RGB, CMYK & Grey profiles.

Let's try another thing, just to narrow the options a tad.
Could you e-mail me a sample Illustrator file. Link is in my personal profile. Just a selection of squares using the mystery black and embed your default profile.
(Feel free to bung in a couple of other colours and circles just to make it interesting)

Fill and Stroke, Fill only, Stroke only & a Black to White graduated fill.

This could narrow the search down by 50%.

Ever onward, however slowly. [bustagut] 8))

Al.

Tanya

Before going through emails and such, I made sure that the changes I've made to both Illustrator and Photoshop were still experiencing the same problems.

Al... it's magic so it is..... but it worked. The files now come in as cmyk: 0 0 0 100 !!

8)) My hat is of to YOU, Al *s thanks so very much.

Tanya

Rantin Al

So tell us the punchline. %} %} What was the specific setting that caused the problem?

Al.

Tanya

In photoshop, I had the incorrect choice made. I did some reading and when seeing this did the old "duhhh - why didn't I think of that!"

In the Photoshop Color Settings, I chose the US Prepress settings. Combined with your help and this. Now I get the 0-0-0-100 CMYK when I open up the Illustrator 10 map into PS7.

It's the little things in life and lordy how many there are!

Tanya

Rantin Al

He! He! Just think how boring life would be without these little trials and tribulations.

Glad you have got it sorted anyway. I was starting to think that I had finally lost the plot. [confused] [bustagut]

Cheers, Al.