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01-28-2004, 01:17 AM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #11 | | Joe Blow
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[righton] For Digital cameras.. I was using a film camera for years.. Well two years ago I got a Canon s110.. It opened my eyes for a whole new world.. From there I went to a cnon s230 digital elf.. And that lil sucker does not leave my pocket.. It's the size of a pack of smokes, and right now is my best friend.. Since I had this canon s230 I shot well over 6000 pic's.. And it's been just over a year from today... I love the fact that I can see the pic after I shoot it to see if I want to reshot it or not.. I have a 250mb card right now.. Witch is not that big.. But it holds about 156 super high quality pic's.. At 2,048 X 1536.. It's a 3.2 mega pixel.. Witch kicks ass for the size of the camera.. But I am into rock climbing.. And I have droped it too too too many time from very high places while it was in it's lil case and so far it holds up to anything I put it though.. Took many pic's in the rain and snow.. I would say it's very durable.. I will be getting the under water inclosement for it.. And a 500mb card.. A few batteries.. (right now I have 2) And then I should be set for a while... I love the fact that you can take pic's... And they make a portable 4x6 printer that you can take anywhere.. Plug your camera in and hit print.. Have pictures in an instant.. Works good for parties and what not.. And it's very small too.. I love downloading my own pic's and no one else looks at them before me.. And there are no rules to shooting pic's when you shoot digital.. There is a walgreens on almost every corner in america.. So if your out and about you can stop and print pic's.. Or get them burned onto CD to edit later... And it really kicks ass to download right to your PC and open photoshop and do what ever you need to them to your liking.. I would never go back.. Since I get my camera.. I got so many people into taking pic's and they all went out and bought digital cameras now.. And they are all getting good.. They love seeing the pic right after you take it.. And being able to take short 3 min or so movies.. And editing your pic's yourself.. It brought a whole new light to photography to their world.. And made them see things in life different...
If you want to learn more about my camera or any canon products go here... http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/s230/index.html
Other then that.. Come see my Gallery and see what my camera produced for me....
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01-28-2004, 02:32 AM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #12 | | Joe Blow
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I have Canon D60 digital SLR and it has transformed my photography.
One method of taking a single great photograph is to take a lot of bad photographs in between. It is not unusual to take 50-100 pictures in a day and delete 45 of them at night. This used to bother me, but not anymore.
I come from a film background and I have always been careful in composing shots, but is invigorating, and also fun, to go and shoot what interests me, instead of what I think will make a good picture. Some of my best pictures are serendipitous events made possible by multiple shots of the same subject. You can do the same with film, but you better have deep pockets.
A digital SLR like the Canon and Nikon and others, has the ability to use lenses available for their other SLR film cameras, so lens quality and selection is not an issue. Canon makes a 16-35mm f/2.8L lens that translates into a 25.6mm-56mm equivalent focal length lens(35mm film equivalent) when multiplied by the 160% enlargement caused by the CCD size differential. Any wider angle and you have a fish-eye lens anyway.
I agree that film and traditional film processing have a slight edge in some instances, but by the time you scan a photograph into your computer, all you have is a copy anyway.
Digital photography is superior in it's ability to correct, after the fact, bad lighting conditions that will ruin film images. Techniques like digital blending of photographs for increased dynamic range can increase the dynamic range of your image by 6 or more f stops. In that technique, you can expose for the highlight and shadows separately and blend the images effortlessly. Try that with film.
You can also stitch multiple digital images together to get super megapixel(100 megapixel+) images that you can enlarge to the size of a house without loss of quality. Try that with film. There are tutorials on the web to explain how.
I mostly shoot in raw format and I can get 35-40 pictures on a 256Mb Card that costs $45 and is reusable nearly forever. You can carry 10 cards in one pocket. Try that with 10 rolls of film. I also don't worry about airport x-rays ruining my entire shoot.
Digital's not for everyone, Hey, some people are still using tape casettes, but anyone who tries the upper level Digital SLR's will never go back to film.
The point and shoot digital camera issue is a different issue entirely.
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01-28-2004, 03:16 AM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #13 | | Joe Blow
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So did ya ever hear of Deviantart? And or do you have a gallery there? You sounded like your big time into taking pic's.. And DA is the place to post them for the world to see.. And you can sell them on there too.. [righton] Go to my gallery and see what I am talking about.. And if you start/have a gallery.. Let me know so I can see your work!!!!!
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02-22-2004, 04:10 PM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #14 | | Joe Blow
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Film vs Digital is something I ponder over alot. I currently use a maxxum 7 camera from minolta as my prefered film SLR. I love it. But because of convience I use a 3 Mega pixel Mustek MDC3500 for everyday shooting. It is extremely cheaper but the quality is no where near 35mm. However with digital SLR's out and coming out like the canon eos 1ds http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/EOS1DS/ and the kodak dcs slr/n http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...SLRIndex.jhtml
I will probably trade my serious photography and my digital in for one camera and not have to worry about film anymore.
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02-23-2004, 12:52 PM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #15 | | Guest | Digital 'vs' Traditional?
I agree with everyhting Shrek said and have switched for most of the same reason. I will agree that Digital hasn't matched the quality that slide film produces but I don't see even that being king
for much longer with the rapid advancement of digital technology.
My main reason for switching from film to didgital was cost. I take alot of photos and when the developers got finished with me my pockets and bank account were beggin me to stop.
I averaged about $120.00 a week in development costs not including the cost of the film too. $120.00 x 4 = $480.00 a month x12= $5760.00 per year.
Dang! That's almost a Canon 1DS. [righton]
Not everyone shoots this many photos so cost alone wont warrant the switch but Shrek pretty much hit the nail on the head with what he posted.
With film I felt I had to make every shot a keeper but with digital I now feel I have the freedom to experiment without going broke doing so.
I will hate to see film go because it still produces awesome photos but like all things....GOOD THINGS COME TO AN END!
Look at 8 TRACKS.....
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05-10-2004, 08:43 PM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #16 | | Newb
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Kodak hopes to stop producing and selling traditional products... including film.... within 5 years. [shhh]
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05-10-2004, 08:47 PM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #17 | | Newb
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Originally Posted by Alistair Kodak hopes to stop producing and selling traditional products... including film.... within 5 years. [shhh] | Film as in film for peoples.... cameras |
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05-10-2004, 10:04 PM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #18 | | Guest | Digital 'vs' Traditional? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alistair Kodak hopes to stop producing and selling traditional products... including film.... within 5 years. | Well, then they better continue (at a fast rate) to make larger storage media.
I know professionals who use 300 GB of storage (backup storage NOT included).
One can say that hard drives get bigger and bigger, but then again, the same can be said about digital photographs 
I also predict (just personal) that video (using a photo camera) is going to play a larger role and that's another need for storage increase.
I also read an article that said that some hard drive producers are going to focus more on reliability, instead of size, Seagate is one of them.
I do believe that manufactures will always deliver what the market is asking for, but at what price level? | |
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05-11-2004, 07:44 AM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #19 | | Guest | Digital 'vs' Traditional?
I think that didgital has it uses, and as time moves on it will evolved to replace traditional photography.
I don't take a lot of pictures but for web design a digital camera is a must have piece of equipment.
I am invoved doing the web site for the Manitoba Summer Games this summer and without my simple little Kodack DCP-215 i would be lost. It is only 2 megapxels but for web work it does the job just great.
When I was younger I used to dabble in photography and used a Yashikia SLR camera, I still have it but can't find batteries for it anymore so it justs gathers dust.
The didgital camerea is just the right tool for what I need at the present time. As a matter of fact i will have a small army of photographers with didgitals shooting the action during the upcoming games, my challenage will be to make all of these pictures web ready and get them uploaded to the gallerys in a timely fashion.
Makes me weary to just think about it.
:B %} [bustagut] [bustagut]
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05-11-2004, 09:13 AM
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Digital 'vs' Traditional? Post #20 | | Joe Blow
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Hey everyone, no doubt you can take a lot more photos, a lot more faster on the digital, than in the analog/chemical process...
But it will take much more time until we see the end of traditional photography...
Digital maybe good for comercial photos, etc.
But when you go to a light table and you see a slide or a chrome, there are things you would never be able to see at the "digital verrsion"
The way that the digital sensor capture and develop the image is very different, you could have an enormous amount of megapixels, but it is not only about resolution, it?s about the focal depht and the color dephts, specially the white tones, the lighter ones...
My father has several cameras, [he doesn?t have a digital yet]
and these days we don?t even print the photos [only when necessary], we have them scanned directly from the film.
At some of his works he would save a great amount of money if he used a digital camera, and there are others where he couldn?t use one, because some works require a higher quality.
The arrival of the digital photography came sure for good, but it has devalorized the market a lot, since there are a lot of amateurs out there, who can?t even use a professional camera, only the digital ones [ever stoped to think about that?].
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