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Old 12-19-2003, 05:38 PM   LOTR3 - Return of the King Post #1
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Has anyone here seen it? I went to see it last night and was just stunned. It's everything the first 2 films were and more, and really worth the time spent. Ever since I started reading Tolkien's works from the age of 10 I'd imagined it a certain way...and wondered if film makers would ever come up with doing it justice. Peter Jackson has. The cgfx also are just incredible. I did a painting many many years ago with the firey eye of Sauron/Mordor, Aragorn, and many other elements of the stories mixed in, but let it go to someone else...wish I had at least kept a photo of it, it resembles the characters and scene elements so eerily close to Jackson's vision now. My opinion is it is a wonderful story and a wonderful film interpretation...well worth seeing---catch it! B7
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Old 12-19-2003, 06:43 PM   LOTR3 - Return of the King Post #2
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Here, they play the movie in two theatres, and both are sold out 'till Jan 5th when school begins anew.

I did see the first two several times, and I prefer the first's world of imagination to thewar-scenes of the second.
But be shure I'll go and see it several times as I consider it to be a movie of extreme importance in the history of movies.

I'll probably try and see the first two anew before going to the third.

I have the extended version(s) on DVD, and, although a 19 inch is small, I'll forget about it after the first second of the first movie.
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Old 12-19-2003, 08:48 PM   LOTR3 - Return of the King Post #3
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The battle scenes are not my favorite parts of the story...but necessary in the telling of the tale of course. Tolkien's world is fully imagined, I savored every bit of it, so many details. But for those who are interested in battle scenes these are so well done, immense and frightening, (cgfx just incredible) just as they should be to illustrate how formidable the task of the fellowship was...this is the battle of all battles (and though I'm not big on such things I've certainly seen my share of filmed war scenes with a husband of nearly 30 years who is a major history/military buff---ugh!) there was no other options left for them but fight and destroy the source of the power which threatened them all.

The best parts of the films, in my opinion though, are the relationships between the characters, their personalities and the amazing fantasy world Tolkien created. There's no way all of the details of the books could be included in film, but a very good taste of it is there.
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Old 12-19-2003, 10:20 PM   LOTR3 - Return of the King Post #4
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I haven't seen it yet but will do after the schools re-open.
And I'm not sitting beside an a**h*** who didn't read the book before and had to ask his pals who, what and why at every turn in the story. Amen to that little rant.

I've read the book cover to cover about 15 times over the past 20 years. Seen films 1 & 2, have both extended DVDs. Including a cute Gollum figure.

I reckon that the films are pretty true to the original book, in the characters, the conception of Middle Earth and the attention to detail in the style of 'props' is stunning.

The CG work was stunning, Gollum being a masterpiece, but it didn't really jump out as being obviously CG.
The behind the scenes look at the camera work is amazing.

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Yeah...footage missing for the scne on the bridge of Khazad-Doom: add cg.
etcetc

they have been rather faithful, yes, except for the elf (what's his name) that gets slayed in battle in the second, and shelob appearing also in the two towers.

only one point I don't like at all, and that are the -obviously- beduins as the Haradrim/Easterners. Makes me think that when it had been filmed in the forties, the bad guys would have had boots and swastika's, and in the sixties_eighties, probably have spoken Russian and using kalashnikovs.
I did ask why on a forum where weta etc visit from time to time, and the answer was that Tolkien describes them as such. Whcih is not true, and made me remark that this was probably a concession to get US money. Storm of protest, calling me a %?^mp??&!usn and a shd!i'"$?)- and a commie rat, but this is a free country! (not for chicken it ain't) ( a quote from another one of my fav movies. to help you, another quote: however cleverly you sneak upon a mirror, your reflection always looks you straight in the eye.)
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It's an epic and there's war...seems there's always some comparisons drawn to the difficulties of the current times...there's always someone as the "bad guys" and everyone has taken their turn at it in some way or another...except maybe in a fantasy world. Terrible for the suffering... but you can look at it as "bad," or you can say everything happens for a reason, and no matter how it looks "it's all good." Take your pick, it will not change a thing. It's all a circular and never-ending situation. No amount of philosophy of any type has ever convinced the whole world to abandon war and those greeds which lead to it. The themes in LOTR are familiar dressed in the trappings of any time...and it looks like, based on human nature, they will be around a very very long time. And yes, politically someone is always accused and someone always says unjustly....and then there's also mindless patriotic fervor where people stop questioning the leadership....which really is dangerous... But as in the story, there's nothing like a war to divert attention away from what really ought to be looked into...it has always worked and it's happening now as well.
...yes, the mirror reflects but there is still seen only the surface of what is reflected, not it's true nature...and what can be seen can be a trick of the light...a misdirection.
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Did you spot the Bearded Lady Riders of Rohan?

They couldn't get enough experienced horsemen, so they recruited horsewomen and made them up with beards. [bustagut]
(From the extras DVD)

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There were some odd looking ones to be sure, Al [bustagut] ...talk about deceptive appearances, eh? [bustagut] 8[ ...you can't believe what you see...for if you do....

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I haven't had the chance to see it as of yet - saw the first two many times

From the comments posted it just goes to show what I have always believed - that we artists are a different breed indeed - at 50+ years of age we still believe in Dragons. [bustagut]

The concept of Middle Earth has been amazing and inspiring people like us for years, and the screen version is absolutely stunning.

Now were the H did that Dragon go now? [bustagut] [bustagut] [bustagut]
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I think you'll really enjoy it, Rick. And why not believe in dragons??!! It makes about as much sense in the scheme of things as anything else. A heavy dose of idealism every so often can keep things afloat.
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