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Old 09-16-2003, 08:03 PM   Need help on a metallic look Post #1
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I am a big fan of Layne Karkruff's work. His art is what inspired me to learn photoshop and I'd like to think I have picked up a few things along the way and have become a decent artist. However, there is an effect Mr. Karkruff uses that has eluded me. I have spent the last three days trying to get a particular metallic look, which I call hematite, without any luck at all. |

An example of the hematite effect can be found by clicking on the link.

http://www.blueskyheart.com

If you look at the winged triangle that is supporting the jewel you will see what I am talking about.

Any help would be appreciated and I will be happy to post my results on the show board.
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:53 PM   Need help on a metallic look Post #2
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wow that looks cool i hope somone knows knwo to do this i'd like to know aswell.

wats the best u can do moth?
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Old 09-17-2003, 12:21 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #3
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dosent hey use Kai's Power Tools in many of his images?? well im nor shure if he does but think that maby the ansver could be found there =)

but i would try to looks at the image and then try to recreate what i se =) and maby find the seacret that way.

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Old 09-17-2003, 12:39 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #4
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Yes, KPT... and that's the one thing that bugs me about his excellent creations... their effect/look is 95% done using KTP ShapeShifter, with the "kitchen" reflection map used exclusively.

Just a shame that someone with such a talent for cool designs would have to rely on a filter THAT much.

Btw... anyone who's used this filter will recognize it instantly. I'm not "guessing" at this.
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Old 09-17-2003, 12:40 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #5
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First off, Moth, you're better than he is. Second off, abbe is right, he uses KPT for most of his stuff.

I find his stuff appealing but pretentious. I find it vaguely offensive that he's using what amount to Photoshop parlor tricks and he's charging for his wallpapers.

The filter most used on his work is KPT shapeshifter. If you take the techniques that are laid out in the glassy sphere and glass pill button tutorials on this site, you're already a step ahead of the game. I've seen you build metal that looks amazing enough that I would have asked for a tutorial if I'd wanted to sound like a needy goober. [shhh] (I am a needy goober, don't let the suave exterior fool you. haha )

<edit> dammit Mark, beat me to it. </edit>
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Old 09-17-2003, 01:23 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #6
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Ah, the infamous ShapeShifter question.
Don't get me started!

Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:59 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #7
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Yes, KPT... and that's the one thing that bugs me about his excellent creations... their effect/look is 95% done using KTP ShapeShifter, with the "kitchen" reflection map used exclusively
Someone seems to be jealous... [innocent]



I think that this guy is really talented :}

Just look at this page: http://www.blueskyheart.com/dc6preview.html

Do you call that 95% Shapeshifter? [bustagut]

My #1 tip; customers don't care which tool you use...
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Old 09-17-2003, 03:17 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #8
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Someone seems to be jealous... [innocent]
I wouldn't say that, since Mark's work pretty much blows blue sky out of the water.

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I think that this guy is really talented :}
He does have some talent, but he's relying on too many click n play tools, so everything he does pretty much looks the same.

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Just look at this page: http://www.blueskyheart.com/dc6preview.html

Do you call that 95% Shapeshifter? [bustagut]
Yes. The other 5% is the "lighting effects" filter.

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My #1 tip; customers don't care which tool you use...
Generally true. Although if you keep turning out the same work over and over and over because you are using a "canned" procedure, eventually you shoot yourself in the foot. Being that this is a graphic forum, and the question was about the technique, I don't think it's really relevant what the commercial viability of the piece is rather, how to best achieve a result.
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Old 09-17-2003, 06:55 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #9
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Ah, the infamous ShapeShifter question.
Don't get me started!
Stroker!!!

[bustagut] [bustagut] [bustagut] [bustagut] [bustagut]

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First off, Moth, you're better than he is.
Thank you for the compliment, MindBender

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Just a shame that someone with such a talent for cool designs would have to rely on a filter THAT much.
I agree with you, theKeeper.

Layne was one of my main inspirations but as you say he relies on the ShapeShifter filter way too much. Hell, I could even overlook that if he would just change the reflection map once in a while. [bustagut]

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Being that this is a graphic forum, and the question was about the technique, I don't think it's really relevant what the commercial viability of the piece is rather, how to best achieve a result.
Good point. I am taking at a look at theKeeper's glass tutorial right after I am done replying to everyone.


What's most frustrating about the whole matter is that I have the glass down but the metal eludes me. Here's the jewel with a poorly done hematite metal. Look Ma! No KPT!
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Old 09-17-2003, 07:38 AM   Need help on a metallic look Post #10
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Just add a little more "blue" into your hematite background Moth and give it a tweak with a "levels adjustment"!

Looking mighty fine, my friend! :}
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