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Old 12-20-2006, 09:50 PM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #21
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yea i read them
and i still agree with him
now onskin has to create a new style
which its gonna be hard to create a style better than this
why would he have to create a new style? because according to my knowledge, everyone in the planet knows how to do this.. its simple right? a few ligthens here a motin blur there. EVERYONE HAS SAID THAT TO ME SO FAR.

and he doesnt have to make a new style. ive had people requestiing me to tell them how to make these sigs. and even though how mad i am at everyone I have enough honour to do the thing that will cause the least comotion and say no to them. onskin doesnt need a new style my firend.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:55 PM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #22
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yea but he doesnt want someone copying his style does he
nobody copys Imp0st0's styles
or wnnrssn style's ???????
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:58 PM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #23
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actually i saw one or two posts that said in it. wnnrssn style. because hey, if they like his sigs, maybe they want to do some like it. but no, that guy didnt get flamed. he got wnnrssn's approval . . . and if he doesnt want people copying his style. he should copyright it. too bad for him. i know ill still do it. but definaly not on a regular basis and definatly not on this forum.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:04 PM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #24
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yea but u didnt get onskins approval
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:09 PM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #25
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approval for what? a sig with brushes he didnt copy right? you are all missing the point.
I appologized and said i wont do it again. that should be good enough for something that is as stupid as copying some ones style. thats like telling on me sending me to the head office because i butted you in the school bus line in grade 2. We aren't dealing with a murder case here people!!!

again, just. everyone get i through you're heads. I AM.. I AS IN ME... RIVAL39.... AM SORRY...
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:25 PM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #26
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:37 AM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #27
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honestly, i expected a better responce from you then anyone else here nic. but i was wrong. even you, one of the most understanding people here think that i solely believe that my sig is as good as onskins.no one quoted me on it yet anf still claims i did say that. All i said was that I think its good for me. And a week is yea, a bit of an exageration. i spent one weeks time but only 2 hrs/day after school on it. still a good amount of time. but whatever.
I am understanding. I hate unoriginal people and rippers though. And I don't care if you don't think your signature is as good as his. No shit it isn't.

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And you said be more creative and you will earn more respect from people. Look at your sig right now and tell me what is so different? a multi squared background pattern with progessing fading colours to the outward directions. and you have put a render on there with C4D's beside her.... and lets think... what makes that so original? I think by now everyone who does sigs, used C4D's in the same way you did here. I am not what so ever critising you or the possible 'creative marit' your sig holds.
Listen to me idiot. It was a sig I made in 15 minutes. And there is no c4d there, so think again. I DON'T USE C4D. If I showed you how I made the things around her you would piss yourself. They're actually hair from a picture of a woman. I modified it and added lighting. There is no texture there, and no c4d render. So don't try to fucking tell me that I am not original. No one made a sig that looks like that. Show me one that is similar. Show me walls of mine that look the "same" as anyone else's. Go fucking look in the gallery and you will find that every wall I make has something different in it, and something new every time. So don't you even try to come here and tell me that what I do has nothing original in it and that I copy other people. Go fuck yourself and actually follow my work before you even think of criticising me. How come I made an original site like soccer-art before anyone else thought of it? Was it because I just do what people do and copy them? If you know something about me is that I don't give a shit what others make and I just make whatever I feel like making and try to make a different style every time. So fuck yourself if you think otherwise, you're an idiot for thinking differently. Make my sig. I will give you 2 weeks.

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But can you follow what im saying? i can find many, many, many sigs like yours.
The point is that onskins is so disstinctive, that when someone else does it. The witch hunt begins.. you see? If onskins style was broadly used, this sig would have been, a 'good job' with everyones responce. Just stop and think to yourself next time you see a sig. How many times has this guy used a C4D, and or image> apply image> with some sort of filter and set the layer to lighten? ALOT. and no one gets flamed for using that style.... and according to you, everyone using a C4D is plagurising becuase they all folow the same path of the 'image, apply image'.
Go and find many many sigs like mine. I would LOVE that. And you obviously can't understand the simple thing I was explaining to you. You reproduced his style. You even said that in the god damned topic title of this thread. You purpusefully duplicated a style, the same procedures and process and idea. That's plagiarism if you want to get techical. Go read copyright and plagiarism laws and regulations. Then come here and talk.

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"You aren't furthering your skills and you're being regressive. " / so i havent furthered my skills by finding a new technique? dont agree with you there..

"You're staying at a standstill" hmmm ive posted 3 signatures on this forum. 1 you actually posted on and i am assumin actually saw. so is it correct for you to be saying this?
I saw your entries in contests and I saw your sigs. You made a shit copy of Onskin's work and you haven't improved at all with it. Live with it.

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Some people are probably thinking im an idiot for opposing your groundings on this because you are super admin and all that. But for me i just see you as someone who has one post, but can ban me when they choose. I feel that I have not censored myself in any way with my responce to you. and thats my way of telling you. 'you really know how i feel on this'. i wont kiss up and say ohhh your sigs are awesome when maybe i dont think they are. <--- that was hypothetical, ive seen one of your sigs so i wont judge you.
I don't give a shit if I am an admin or not and what people think. You're being stupid. You can disagree with me and you will anyways for attention because looking at this topic you are a classic prima donna. I don't care if you like my sigs or if you judge me. And I don't expect you to suck up to me. But what I do expect you to do is to not copy someone like you have with onskin. I hate cunts with no originality, and you've proven yourself as one here. This site has a 100% against ripping in any sort policy. I think the badgering you are taking for your sig is worse than a ban though, so you are still here. I am not going to ban you for arguing with me, but I will ban you for ripping or plagiarising or cpying a style. There are 6000 members, I'm sure you wouldn't be missed. And if you have only seen one of my sigs it is because I don't actualy make sigs, I make walls, websites, and non-soccer art.

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Now, the one thing that really pissed me off that you said nic. was "and then tried to flaunt it to everyone that you made a sig like his" that really got under my skin. because you displayed a huge amount of ignorance to what I said earlier...
read it pleease --> "You all say i was pontificating the fact i can do it. well yea i was, but not in a 'im better then you kind of way' wouldnt you announce a contrivance of your own? but you arent showing off.. right?"
Listen I wasn't ignoring what you said. I don't care what you SAY, I care about how you act and what you come off like. You sounded like a little pompous proud aarogant cunt that was so happy that he finally was able to be the first person to make a copy of onskin's sigs. THE SECRET IS YOURS!!!!!!!!. So you can say anything to try to protect yourself, but as soon as you made it and posted it you were boasting and were so happy of what you achieved. Which is nothing. So you can get pissed off at me for poining that out to you, but you're the one with the problem here, not me.

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You said i was flaunting. no; i was not. that statement really ticked me off. please read everything i say. ..

""But maybe you'll learn from this and spend your time better in the future.""
Do not condesend me. you have no right to and it gives you an extremely pretencious look in th eyes of someone who doesnt think admins have the right to do whatever they want. which is in all fact true. but as an admin you have the responsibility of not doing wrong.
If you werent condesending me then i appologize. that statement really looks like it though.

Again, i dont hate anyone for expressing their opinion. i just think you are wrong.
I did read everything you said. And I can be condesending if I want to. I go with what I believe is right. When you argued with Vlado (a GA) I sided with you. This time, I think you're a prick for everything you said and what you did. And sharing my opinion is "doing all I want"? Give me a fucking break. Don't try to act the victim here because you brought everything on yourself. And put away the thesaurus because you have no idea how to use some of the words you are using.

You were right. Maybe you are 5-6 years younger than us. You're curled up in a ball against the fences and you have nothing to say. So just quit while you're just a little bit behind because attacking me personally about my graphics or my attitude or what an admin should do is not something you should do. I've been an admin for more years than you have been on forums. I have made graphics for over three years and I think that I know a bit more than just slapping and image and putting some c4d behind it. Unfortunately for you, I don't think you're even worth banning. With every post you make you just digg yourself in deeper and deeper. You sound more defensive, more cocky, and even more annoying. I'm sorry that I didn't prove to be so "understanding" for once, but you pissed me off, and you ripped off an artist from my site. So shut the fuck up please, and go work on a more original style.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:47 AM   Onskin's Secret Is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post #28
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